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by jonb
Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:11 pm
Forum: Old World
Topic: Blombos Cave Ochre.
Replies: 86
Views: 40942

Re: Blombos Cave Ochre.

If when you look at a pattern and you think that as there is a diagonal in it then it must be an image of triangles, then triangles I take your word for it is what you see. However when I see a diagonal, I do not assume it to be other than a diagonal, this is because I am trained as an artist to dis...
by jonb
Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:13 am
Forum: New World
Topic: Making an impression
Replies: 59
Views: 56017

Re: Making an impression

Out of price range? As you may or may not know I am almost now house bound, and consequently as you can imagine not the wealthiest person going. However I use a ten year old copy of photoshop, given free with a magazine, any old lens can be used to magnify, and an old digital camera a few pounds, ye...
by jonb
Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:19 am
Forum: Old World
Topic: Blombos Cave Ochre.
Replies: 86
Views: 40942

Re: Blombos Cave Ochre.

http://www.pnas.org/content/103/25/9381/F5.large.jpg If you look at the above, you will see there are few triangles in the first example, but as I have been saying the diagonals are again at a remarkably similar angle, is this not telling us that the important feature is not the creation of triangle...
by jonb
Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:45 am
Forum: The 'Everything Else' Forum.....
Topic: Is there a presumption going on that should be chalenged
Replies: 10
Views: 12438

Is there a presumption going on that should be chalenged

As an outsider who receives a lot of my information through the TV there seems to me to be a presumption that ancient people were stupid. Now this goes against how I understand evolution to be, that somebody 150,000 years ago was essentially the same as me as we have not evolved much in that time. I...
by jonb
Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:07 am
Forum: Old World
Topic: Blombos Cave Ochre.
Replies: 86
Views: 40942

Re: Blombos Cave Ochre.

There is no commonality, between the ochre pattern and the examples you have shown, apart from there being diagonal lines. On the ochre the lines have no relationship to each other each diagonal is interdependent. The creator of the ochre has not bothered to worry about where it crosses another line...
by jonb
Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:24 am
Forum: New World
Topic: Making an impression
Replies: 59
Views: 56017

Re: Making an impression

Honestly, try taking images first, Not only will you be surprised how much detail you can get from it, but I can assure you, the information will be far more accessible than just having a plaster cast. Even with only an phone to take the image a large lens which could be bought for a few pounds, by ...
by jonb
Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:27 am
Forum: New World
Topic: Making an impression
Replies: 59
Views: 56017

Re: Making an impression

My advice, if there is any ink, paint on the object, I would think it better not to do anything with it. However if you must, my advice for the best way forward. The substance you use to make the impression does not have to be very solid at all it can be very soft as long as it retains an impression...
by jonb
Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:03 am
Forum: Old World
Topic: Blombos Cave Ochre.
Replies: 86
Views: 40942

Re: Blombos Cave Ochre.

I am sorry it has taken me so much time to get back to this subject after starting it I have CFS and intermitantly that forces me to sit back and not get involved with things for a time, which is also why I can't properly show my idea. To answer some of the things put forward on this thread. It was ...
by jonb
Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:57 am
Forum: Old World
Topic: Blombos Cave Ochre.
Replies: 86
Views: 40942

Re: Blombos Cave Ochre.

Have you used ochre of similar size & shape, both with & without the incised patterns, to illustrate your hypothesis? Seeing this demonstrated is far more instructive than pure speculation. Yes, but my problem is that I am almost housebound and as such living on a tight income, the laptop I...
by jonb
Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:14 pm
Forum: Old World
Topic: Blombos Cave Ochre.
Replies: 86
Views: 40942

Blombos Cave Ochre.

http://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/news/02/images/bbcochre2000_big.jpg The objects, dated to at least 70,000 years ago, were recovered from the Middle Stone Age layers at Blombos Cave, a site on the southern Cape shore of the Indian Ocean I am an artist, my knowledge of archaeology is minimal. However I hav...