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In answer to the above, I would like to know your evidence for the presumption I have not consulted and used the methods and been taught by many masters of a number of different cultures. You seem to place me in an art collage and that being my only experience. You have presumed too much. Maybe it m...

You will notice in the Australian Aboriginal site that you linked to, there is a round bowl, and presumably they are using that article for the grinding, you will find I have made reference to grinding that way a number of posts back, and as far as I am aware there were no clay vessels contemporary ...

Yes that is what is said, but what is the evidence that water was or was not used in the grinding process? It would make sense to grind wet because the paste would be easier to control, than dust. This is where somebody used to using different techniques would be better qualified to talk about a pro...

If I am rubbing on a damp surface, it creates a paste, if i wet the surface which I am rubbing to get material from it will be a paste. if I wet the material that has been rubbed off the surface it is in contact with will also be wet. I don't see how that could be otherwise. I don't see how you coul...

Pics of two of the faces of the Klei Kliphuis ochre can be seen here . http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440307002051 In this case it is quite clear that the striated face is a result of grinding to produce powder while the incised face of the same block has a raised shoulder wh...

If ochre is rubbed directly onto a surface what do you get on the surface? My only proviso is that for the striations in the pigment to be useful in the grinding, then it would not be a dry activity. the striations serve a use when the substance is sticky. Which is why if you look at neolithic grind...

So what do you want me to do reply to your assertions, or move on to talking about the possible utility of the ochre as I have implied it would be impossible to do both.

There was much than than similarities of designs that had not been addressed I listed them earlier here are your comments with my responses . "How many examples of non representational markings from the Paleolithic and after have you seen , that are not on ochre and obviously have no connectio...

Yes I understand you have made an assertion that a number of disparate images are the same. However there is no quality that you have pointed to that there is any commonality. You have made an assertion,what evidence is there for it, other than these are marks made by people? It seem s to me you jus...

The marks would be the same for either process. Why I am talking about starting from the beginning is that I am not sure you have any understanding of what I have been saying. In that even a simple term like sketchiness you say- but there were lots of motifs like that, and then as evidence post up i...

Your original suggestion , which I disagreed with and am unaware of anyone apart from yourself else agreeing with , concerned a possible utilitarian reason for the markings ,i.e. the markings were an aid to application of the pigment , that changed to the markings being a result of producing the pi...

No you do not understand the difference between loose and what I am talking about. to do that I think we have to start from the ground up are you willing?

What we are looking at is a pattern, to understand the pattern I am looking at the lines that create it, and how those lines are made, By sketchiness, I am not talking about it looking like a sketch of something, or even that the lines are made inexactly, but in using a term that would be said about...

Every profession has terminology, that means something to that group that outsiders are less lightly to understand. I am used to talking to my group, and as such, and from the references you are making, it seems to me that should we want to proceed further I am going to have to re think the terminol...