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by Digit
Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:21 pm
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

I pointed that out earlier kb, that may conjure up images of a felt hat full of fishing flies etc but in reality that term covers a mulitude of sins. probably caught by lure fishing Probably, ie, no evidence in support, simply stating a lure does not explain how the fish was actually retained. For e...
by Digit
Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:34 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fire!
Replies: 1
Views: 5325

Fire!

On a forum far far away I was ridiculed about fire control versus fire making and eating animals killed by wildfires. Ladeeez and Genelmen, for you delectation, http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=was+gluten+intolerance+in+early+humans&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CFIQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beyondve...
by Digit
Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:30 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

Well Min I wouldn't go to all the trouble of fashioning the necessary equipment to take a 50lb fish simply to make a Tuna and Mayo sandwich! The size of some of the species listed infers feeding a group, from there it becomes a group enterprise to catch 'em.

Roy.
by Digit
Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:11 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

I personally believe that they would have used harpoons and worked with a team of boats to maximize the possibility of bringing home some of those fish. Plus beating the water etc to drive them in shore, seine netting. As kb pointed out, some Tuna are very large, thus a snail hook simply ain't on! ...
by Digit
Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:09 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=How+large+are+Tuna&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTuna&ei=MNYjT5idDIi30QW4yIjOCg&usg=AFQjCNEfLI9C9T3LTyDdRzrZVGWQ4tVcJw&cad=rja As I pointed out, the word Tuna is generic kb. I also pointed out that nets would logical...
by Digit
Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:09 pm
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

We have hooks and we have Tuna remains near each other but we are saying that they may not be related? That's correct, the report actually states that Tuna were probably taken with lures, suggesting that the hooks were not used for big fish. Tuna etc feed on other fish so a live bait would probably...
by Digit
Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:32 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

I agree that if hooks were made they were used C, as you suggest, for smaller fish, but when these experts use these throw away lines such as 'lures were used to catch Tuna,' with no suggestion as to how this was accomplished, I feel a desperate urge to ask them to accompany you on one of your fishi...
by Digit
Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:21 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

Agreed Min, but I suspect that scavenging the tide ocurred many generations before we were capable of reasoning, after all Komodo Dragons scavenge the tide line! The report glosses over certain practical problems, it states that Tuna were probably caught with a lure, fine, but without a hook or a go...
by Digit
Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:19 pm
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

Nope! I'm challenging your idea of cutting a slice of snail shell, the report says.... we think they just put bait on and dropped the hook in the water from a boat (at the) edge of a reef," ...I doubt that a sliced shell would hold a big fish as listed in their report. Also I doubt very much that fi...
by Digit
Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:56 pm
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

Fish, along with snails, were probably scavenged long before we became 'human' enough to work out how to catch them or cook them. I also doubt that a snail's shell is strong enough to make a worthwhile hook. In most regions, once the hook idea is thought of, mother nature supplies her own hooks. Ask...
by Digit
Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:52 pm
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

Rather like a nuclear bomb, the theory is easy, the construction isn't. Firstly you need suitable material, next you need a tool to make the hook and finally some form of line. Making something like a number 16 hook from bone would be something of a challenge, large hooks means large fish. A gorge i...
by Digit
Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:11 pm
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

Spearing seems to make sense as a first step.
Yep! Even catching a fish by hand in a rock pool could be fun! Stabbing it makes more sense.
A hook is not necessary, having decided on the idea of bait working, gorge baiting was much used here in past days.

Roy.
by Digit
Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:44 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: Fish Story
Replies: 34
Views: 34798

Re: Fish Story

There's a bit more to it than that I suspect. Logic would seem to suggest that the first fishing would have been by catching trapped fish in rock pools when the tide withdrew.
I doubt that fishing with a lure was the kick off.

Roy.
by Digit
Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:41 am
Forum: Anthropology and Primitive Societies
Topic: How long to develop a culture?
Replies: 3
Views: 6759

Re: How long to develop a culture?

In some cases the reason will simply be that the particular culture is an alien one, brought in fully fledged from outside. As in the New World and other colonial based cultures.

Roy.
by Digit
Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:38 am
Forum: New World
Topic: A Maya Diaspora
Replies: 29
Views: 10923

Re: A Maya Diaspora

A wacky theory is not necessarily rendered plausible by virtue of its unpopularity.
True enough.

Roy.