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Supposedly the beard fell off.

Nah - just go to Woodstock or New Paltz - you'll fit right in - and have a blast too.

Hope you feel better soon. Take care.

Dang - it must've been awfully cold during the ice ages then. No clothes - yikes.

Ok - how about this from way out in left field: What's the possibility that the Olmecs (or even other people living in South America and Central America) travelled the world and when they came back sculpted images of peoples they saw around the world? It's just as feasible that way as the other. If ...

I agree that the gnostic schools derived from Zoroastrianism, but without knowing what the original (if any) OT might have said there's no real way of knowing. And as far as I can see, the demiurge part "seems" to me anyways to be a major part of the gnostic teachings of a "higher&quo...

Are you claiming that alll the Jewish mystics were gnostics then and that there wasn't another school of Jewish mysticism?

Ok - then show me how Yahweh did not show evil as well as good tendencies and how he does not relate to the demiurge.

Hmmm - http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1E1-demiurge.html demiurge The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition | Date: 2008 demiurge [Gr.,=workman, craftsman], name given by Plato in a mythological passage in the Timaeus to the creator God. In Gnosticism the Demiurge, creator of the material world, was ...

I believe in the OT it was referred to as "the Anger of the Lord" - and Satan also. And if I recall right it was the Anger of the Lord that led Moses to lead the people out of Egypt as well as gave hime the laws. - But - the inference is to a quality of Yahweh - which is the duality again.

Exactly - except I'm saying why would the gnostics use the name "Jesus". It doesn't add up.

Ishtar wrote: I also know enough about Yahweh to know where he comes from and how he got into the Hebrew Bible. However, some do compare Yahweh to the demiurge - and so you're in good company. So can we now get back to the early Christianity, which is what this thread is about? But ish - that's the ...

I can do that!

But either way - how would you interpret the OT gnostically and say Yahweh isn't relating to the demiurge?

Ish - I'm not on either side - I was using that to point out that there appears to be evidence of more than one type of interpretation. Whether or not they were approved by the Jews or the Christians. There could have been a thousand other views on it - just as there were so many different sects. Pi...