Teddy's been web scratching again, this won't take long:
An extract from Jocelyn's LIfe of Saint Kentigern on early Christians in Britain and their heresies:
"And the diocese of that episcopate extended to the borders of the Cambrian kingdom, and that kingdom stretched continuously from sea to sea, just like the earthen wall built by the Emperor Severus. After the advice and counsel of the Roman legions, in order to prevent the Picts from rushing into the country, a wall was constructed in this same place that was eight feet wide and twelve feet tall, and it reached up to the river Forth,111 and divides Scotland from England as a boundary line.112
And this Cambrian region over which Kentigern now was placed with episcopal honor, had received the Christian faith (as had the whole of Britain) during the time of Pope Eleutherius, when King Lucius ruled.113
But when the pagans had attacked the island during various times, and having dominion over it, the islanders had thrown away the faith they had received by falling into apostasy. Many also were not yet washed in the health-giving water of baptism, and many were stained by the contagion of manifold heresies. Many, only Christian in name, were wrapped up in the hog pool of multiple vices. Very many had been taught by ministers inexperienced in and ignorant of the law of God.
And for these reasons, all the inhabitants of the province had a need for the counsel of a good shepherd, and the cure of a good ruler. Therefore God, the Disposer and Dispenser of all good things, provided, preferred, and proposed Saint Kentigern as a healing remedy, as the sustenance of life and the example, for all the diseases of all the people."
Sorry Ted this was written in the 12th century - 700 years after the Saint (if he existed) died. Longer time gap than the existence of the US and most of the states of Europe.
Perhaps something a little more contemporary Teddy?
112 The Antonine Wall. According to Smyth, "The Damnonii were the most inaccessible of all the British tribes between the walls – from a southern or Roman point of view – and it is no coincidence that they survived longest of all the northern Britons into the early eleventh century, under their later guise as the Britons of Dumbarton or Strathclyde" (8). However, the term :Cumbria" or "Cambria" does not seem to be used by any author prior to the eleventh century. The kingdom included Stirlingshire, Glasgow, Dumfriesshire, and probably Carlisle, but Galloway was excluded. The southern limit of the kingdom can be inferred to be the river Derwent (Forbes 331).
Irellevent gibbereish who is this Smith? What has the 11th century to do with the 5th? Why is it "no coincidence" they survived? Where does he get his map from? Why does he not refer to the other three tribes of Dumnonii - one in Devon (hence the name) and in Britanny? He is a charlataan Teddy.
When dealing with the big boys Ted you must learn to cite properely - and read the documents
113 This story appears in ). Although this tale is pure myth, nominal Christianity was present in Strathclyde from at least the mid-fifth century when St. Patrick censored Coroticus (Ceretic), who was a Christian, for raiding the Irish Christian community. As Duncan states, "We may therefore accept a Christianising of the southern Picts in Fife and Angus by the mission of Nynia [Ninian] in the fifth century. We have no means of assessing the spiritual value of that Christianising, for it has left no recognised kirks or hermitages" (40).
But you said Patrick was valueless as source Teddy? Changed you mind?
LUCIUS, KING OF BRITAIN, WRITING TO POPE ELEUTHERUS, DESIRES TO BE MADE A CHRISTIAN
156 AD IN the year of our Lord's incarnation 156, Marcus Antoninus Verus, the fourteenth from Augustus, was made emperor, together with his brother, Aurelius Commodus. In their time, whilst Eleutherus, a holy man, presided over the Roman church, Lucius, king of the Britons, sent a letter to him, entreating that by his command he might be made a Christian.
He soon obtained his pious request, and the Britons preserved the faith, which they had received, uncorrupted and entire, in peace and tranquillity until the time of the Emperor Diocletian.
Irrlevent drivel again Teddy What has the 2nd century to do with the fifth? What has Diolcetian to do with Pelgius or Patrick. Have you been drinking?
But none of this is relevant to the acculturalisation of the Roman-British Teddy. Not a word. You are just posting material and you do not know what it says. What has Diocletian got to do with Cunedda? Or the Water Newton Hoard? Or the lead tanks, or the Watts theory of revised paganism (Dorothy Watts - Christians and Pagans in Roman Britian).
THE REIGN OF DIOCLETIAN, AND HOW HE PERSECUTED THE CHRISTIANS
[EARLY GERMANIC SEA RAIDERS]
286 AD IN the year of our Lord's incarnation 286, Diocletian, the thirty third from Augustus, and chosen emperor by the army, reigned twenty years, and created Maximian, surnamed Herculius, his colleague in the empire. In their time, one Carausius, of very mean birth, but an expert and able soldier, being appointed to guard the seacoasts, then infested by the Franks and Saxons, acted more to the prejudice than to the advantage of the commonwealth; and from his not restoring to its owners the booty taken from the robbers, but keeping all to himself, it was suspected that by intentional neglect he suffered the enemy to infest the frontiers.
Hearing, therefore, that an order was sent by Maximian that he should be put to death, [Carausius] took upon him the imperial robes, and possessed himself of Britain, and having most valiantly retained it for the space of seven years, he was at length put to death by the treachery of his associate, Allectus. The usurper [Allectus], having thus got the island [of Britain] from Carausius, held it three years, and was then vanquished by Asclepiodotus, the captain of the Praetorian bands, who thus at the end of ten years restored Britain to the Roman empire.
Meanwhile, Diocletian in the east, and Maximian Herculius in the west, commanded the churches to be destroyed, and the Christians to be slain. This persecution was the tenth since the reign of Nero, and was more lasting and bloody than all the others before it; for it was carried on incessantly for the space of ten years, with burning of churches, outlawing of innocent persons, and the slaughter of martyrs. At length, it reached Britain also, and many persons, with the constancy of martyrs, died in the confession of their faith.
a nice collection of references to sources:
but note the confusion about Venturiones
and Scotti and attacotti.
Where is any reference to the mythical Venturiones and Scotti? Ther is no reference. You haven't read the document Teddy. It's like your book about man in the Americas which forgets to mention any people in Latin America. You are way out of your depth Ted.
Oh and latest research (Catherine Nixey) shows the Pagans were not anything like the way they have b een depicted by Chritian monks writing for christians. They were liars Teddy, just like you.
But I should not cavil. It has to be said that at least yu are trying to look at real sources I have suggested to you and you have asccepted your wild theories about all metalware in Britain being produced in Scotalnd for 500 years is the product of drink. And yur invention of peoples (Cruit), and faint grasp of basic geography. I feel proud. you are making such progress. Now work on your dates!