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Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:19 am

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marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:09 am

Possible PreClovis quadriface- Ventral View- 8.5"- hounslow

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:33 am

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Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:50 am

Looks like a candidate for the Dead Parrot Sketch, Charlie!

Starflower · Post by **Starflower** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:09 am

Charlie, I really enjoy your posts, it's nice to see someone so enthusiastic. Personally I am hoping for the earliest dates to be proven as fact. That said, I don't know nothin' bout rocks. It is a sad fact, but a rock looks like a rock to me. Some are prettier than others. I am afraid that if I tripped over a Pre-clovis point...I'd just cut my foot.

Now all ya'll don't make fun of me or try and teach me about rocks.(My Grandpa nearly had an apoplexy when I couldn't tell which tribe made which arrowhead even after he explained the differences to me) I have nothing practical to contribute, so will keep my mouth shut hereafter. Just wanted you to know I was rootin' for ya.

On a sidebar, has anyone else checked out the website for our latest UK member, Manystones? There are pictures of possible Paleolithic rock art.
http://www.palaeolithicart.co.uk/

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:28 am

You know what, Star? I used to have the same feeling about Charlie's rocks but after a while you can start to see where an edge has been worked by man and where nature has done its work alone.

Two projectile points, a Clovis (right) and a Folsom (left), excavated from Blackwater Draw.

Solutrean Point.

After a while you can start to see where the knappers have been doing their thing.

Starflower · Post by **Starflower** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:45 am

Okay min, now you're starting to sound like my Grandpa.

I agree the rocks look worked, but for all I can tell aliens did it

(and I don't believe in them) That was all I meant, I really wouldn't know a pre-Clovis point if it bit me in the a...

Star

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:02 am

I with you on the rocks Starflower. Charlie looks at a rock and may see all kinds of human working on it. I look at the same rock and wonder how many times I could make it skip across a pond.

BUT - the longer you look at them, you start seeing what Charlie is talking about, as Min was saying.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:16 am

BUT - the longer you look at them, you start seeing what Charlie is talking about

same thing works with fundementalists
its a basic premise of brain washing
i've been looking at charlies rocks for a long time and all i see is rocks

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:46 pm

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Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:51 pm

Looks like a candidate for the Dead Parrot Sketch, Charlie!

Good ol' Monty..

Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:53 pm

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Charlie Hatchett · Post by **Charlie Hatchett** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:11 pm

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marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:18 pm

My kids just look at me, and shake their heads

like you got rocks in your head
bada boom bada bing

stan · Post by **stan** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:31 pm

I am willing to believe that a lot of charlies rocks are worked, based on looking over my collection here.
I am sure a geologist will contradict me, but I seems to me that old rocks tend to weather and get smoother over thousands of years, rather than get lots of little nicks along the edges. I mean flint, chert, & other "tooly" rocks.
If they are in running water, they get rounded off, and if they are in the soil, they are pretty much preserved as is
(witness those beautiful clovis and solutrean points posted by Minimalist.)
However, those darn preclovisites didn't seem to have much on the ball, based on the crudeness of their technology.
That tells me that they might be MUCH older than 13000BC.

Archaeologica.org

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