Stonehenge

[Digit]

"2 minutes with Google etc" Marduk and here 2 minutes with wiki.
One group of experts says Carn Menyn and another lot disagree. What doI do now? Head or Tails?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carn_Menyn

[marduk]

go with the group that has proven their case with scientific evidence and not the ones who are just disagreeing speculators
they got nuffin

found this today
http://www.archaeologychannel.org/conte ... 700kW.html
although it looks good its not the method used for transporting the stones

[Digit]

Which group would that be then?

[marduk]

http://www.nyartsmagazine.com/index.php ... Itemid=164
dated November / December 2006
pay attention where it says

Darvill and Wainwright report that geochemical analysis show that the rock formations at the prehistoric quarry are identical to those at Stonehenge.

[Digit]

And if you check wiki other experts dispute it. Heads or tails?

[marduk]

oh please
cut and paste the part in the wiki page you referenced that says other experts dispute it
it clearly says

Geochemical analysis has shown that some of the bluestones from the inner horseshoe at Stonehenge probably came from Carn Menyn, Carngoedog, Carnbreseb, Cerrigmarchogion and other sites in the Preseli Hills, while rhyolite fragments may have come from Carnalw and further afield.

[Digit]

I did. Mon Jan 8. Perhaps you didn't read it.

[marduk]

Well then post it again
I'd love to see this post of yours that lists the experts that disagree

[Digit]

Move to the top of the page you lazy sod!

[marduk]

I have read all your claims
once again as usual they aren't borne out by the links provided
you are saying that you can't post the names of these experts because there aren't any
wikipedia doesnt say that any experts disagree at all
i read everything you posted and all the links you posted on the last two pages
so quite clearly you are making it up as you go along
this isn't fiction Roy
this is the real world

[Digit]

In the early 1920s HH Thomas was able to resolve this to the Preseli Hills and in 2005 work led by Timothy Darvill and Geoff Wainwright suggested Carn Menyn as the primary quarry. This is disputed by others, and Williams-Thorpe and others from the Open University have suggested that the Stonehenge bluestones came from many different places, with Carngoedog the most likely source for the spotted dolerites.

Missed that bit did we?

[marduk]

lol in this case your source is an ass

Chemical compositions and magnetic susceptibility data were compared for 12 dolerite bluestone implements including axes, axe-hammers and battle-axes, 11 Stonehenge monoliths (chemical data only), and potential source outcrops in Preseli, South Wales. Most of the studied artefacts are of spotted dolerite, a small number being unspotted dolerite. Bivariate graphs, discriminant analysis and t-tests were used singly and in combination to show, respectively, that the implements found at sites in England are mainly similar to Stonehenge monoliths, while the implements found in Wales have a variety of compositions and are much less similar to Stonehenge monoliths. The dichotomy between English and Welsh dolerite bluestone implements could be explained by exploitation of different Preseli outcrops or erratic assemblages derived from them. A small number of spotted dolerite implements have previously been shown to have chemical compositions atypical of and marginal to Preseli, suggesting the possibility of a source of spotted dolerite outside Preseli. Previously published analytical data in combination with the new implement/outcrop comparisons presented in this paper support derivation of the majority of analysed Stonehenge monoliths at one particular outcrop within the group of four identified by Thorpe et al. 15 years ago. Analysis of all the extant bluestone monoliths at Stonehenge (now possible using non-destructive methods) would allow progress in identifying monolith outcrop sources, and in understanding the links with the bluestone axe trade.

so owen williams thorpe actually were saying that not all the bluesyone implemets found at sites came from preselli
but that all the stones at stonehenge did
see Roy because you don't check your sources and rely on wikipedia for your astounding lack of knowledge you only ever get half the story
so you're making statements that are untenable
my source btw is the oxford journal of archaeology
http://www.history.ac.uk/ihr/Resources/ ... 25253.html

[Digit]

From the wiki link I posted.

Pembrokeshire had been considered the source of the bluestones since Sir Andrew Ramsey first suggested it as a contender in the mid-nineteenth century. In the early 1920s HH Thomas was able to resolve this to the Preseli Hills and in 2005 work led by Timothy Darvill and Geoff Wainwright suggested Carn Menyn as the primary quarry. This is disputed by others, and Williams-Thorpe and others from the Open University have suggested that the Stonehenge bluestones came from many different places, with Carngoedog the most likely source for the spotted dolerites.

Note the word 'suggested', on line 5. My dictionary says, to hint, to insinuate, to propose, to intimate.
Funny sort of proof isn't it?

[marduk]

you were the one claiming it was proof
i was the one saying it wasn't
so where does that leave you Roy
are you now confused or something

[Digit]

I haven't claimed proof of anything simply pointed out that for every expert saying one thing you can find one saying the opposite. I think I've proved that, don't you?