MichelleH wrote:That would not just be a "no", but a "hell no".Minimalist wrote:What do you say, Michelle? Can we have him back??
Didn't think so.
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MichelleH wrote:That would not just be a "no", but a "hell no".Minimalist wrote:What do you say, Michelle? Can we have him back??
And my question to you is, why do you think God did not enter the minds of men until 6000 years ago? That figure is based on the literal interpretation of Biblical dating and assumes a creation event. You have already said, man was around 6mya so you have nullified your second assumption. So I can answer, God has been around since man first became of self aware.ravenwing5910 wrote:"if we have been here for what roughly 6my, why didn't god show up till about 6 thousand years ago? which should have started with "when and how exactly did god show up?
God has been around since man first became of self aware.
Rather than going by Usher's calculations I am basing the question on the previous polytheism and the recent rise of monotheism. So I could restate the question as "when, where and how did god become a single male entity?"Forum Monk wrote: And my question to you is, why do you think God did not enter the minds of men until 6000 years ago?
This would have sent Arch through the roof....probably just as well that he's not here.Herodotus evidently had no knowledge of Yehouah and His remarkable chosen people, the Jews, or their ancient temple in Jerusalem when he wrote his histories about 480 BC, though even then the temple was supposedly nearly 500 years old! He did know of circumcision in the region, but this was a custom of the Egyptians and will only reflect Egyptian influence on Palestine through colonization. His history ended before Nehemiah, the Persian Eunuch, arrived as governor of Judah in 445 BC or Ezra, the priest, arrived in 428 BC or 397 BC (the date, year 7 of Artaxerxes must be of Artaxerxes II, or year 37 of Artaxerxes I has been corrupted). It was only with Ezra that Judaism, with its famous law, was really founded, and the Jerusalem temple got any authority, even if other returners had already established the temple—and that is questionable.
The sign of Persian influence appears in Jeremiah. Rab-Mag was the chief of the Magi. The books of the Old Testament like 2 Chronicles, Ezra and Deutero-Isaiah betray a strong influence of Persia. Thus they even use the reigns of Persian kings as the basis of their chronology. Waterhouse (WAT-ZOR) says some passages "appear as much Persian as Hebraic." The origins of Greek philosophy, which also emerged in the time of the Persians, must also be considered likely to have something to do with Zoroastrian ideas.
Forum Monk wrote:Oh. Sorry I thought she asked about monotheism, not Judaism.
btw - In your opinion, did Ezra return to rebuild a wrecked temple or build it new for the first time?
The first link is evidence of monotheism predating Judaism, as an example:ravenwing5910 wrote:Monk, I am aware of Akhenaten and the Amarna period, of Abraham and just a tiny bit about Zoroaster. Also about the Greek Pantheon, Egyptian Pantheon and the Celtic as well. Perhaps you can tell me, Was Akhenaten the first to attempt a change to monotheism? And I have never heard of any Ancient monotheistic cults/myths prior to Amarna, so could you give me more information about that, perhaps some resources I can access?