He also said it "might" suggest that the custom of burying people with artefacts originated in western Europe rather than eastern Europe as had previously been thought.
Good article except for the statement above. When will people realize that our forebears weren't all stupid?
He also said it "might" suggest that the custom of burying people with artefacts originated in western Europe rather than eastern Europe as had previously been thought.
Good article except for the statement above. When will people realize that our forebears weren't all stupid? :roll:
When they quit buying into biblical bullshit telling them they are the chosen of god, and that everyone else is inferior.
Shrinks have a word for it: "projection".
Any god watching me hasta be bored, and needs to get a life.
I don't mind admitting it Cogs. This constant red ochre shit is driving me nuts!
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
When will people realize that our forebears weren't all stupid?
When the idea stops making them feel inferior Cog. It seems to be generally believed that each generation is smarter than its forebears therefore six generations back everybody was moronic.
They must have been stupid 'cos they didn't have TV, autos, etc etc etc. Right?
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
War Arrow wrote:
Er... I'm not actually trying to weigh in on this argument, so please feel free to blow this one out of the water, but it might be argued that India seems lacking in folks with more than the traditional quota of arms, yet some of their Gods seem to have more than their fair share. Or am I being too literal here?
Well WA, your point is completely undone! And this is in India:
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
War Arrow wrote:
Er... I'm not actually trying to weigh in on this argument, so please feel free to blow this one out of the water, but it might be argued that India seems lacking in folks with more than the traditional quota of arms, yet some of their Gods seem to have more than their fair share. Or am I being too literal here?
Well WA, your point is completely undone! And this is in India:
And so why have these interesting people been relegated to second-class citizen status?
Because they threaten us.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
What we have here is a clown car of a hypothesis: everything thrown in but the bearded lady. No hypothesis is ever tested: Consistency rules. This is no discredit on Jones at all, who clearly does the best job possible of fitting together all these recent papers. The problem is that when you see them all next to each other, you can't help but see that these 115,000-year-old Eritrean shellfish, 40,000-year-old Y chromosome divergences, 65,000-year-old mitochondrial haplogroups, 30,000-year-old Indian blades, 35,000-year-old Romanian skeletons, 70,000-year-old ochre engravings, and 190,000-year-old African skulls really can't fit together to tell a story of a single human dispersal at a single time.
Here is John Hawks on a bit of a rant regarding the spate of recent papers on early man. This story also links to a paper on human origins.
I can see his point, but he is not realizing that what is being found is not a nice strigh line progression at a single place.
You had a small, mobile population, living lightly on the land and spread over a very large area for a very long time. And they did not build things meant to be found and studied thousands of years later.
When you think about it, it is amazing we are finding anything at all.
What we have here, in my opinion, is a classic example of the collision between the arguments of linear progression and simultaneity.
The crucial word here is mobility.
Linear progression asssumes limited mobility, over an extremely extended period of time.
Mobility assumes relatively rapid movement, with populations which, at the same time becoming relatively geographically isolated, were also capable of regular communication/social intercourse due to their ability to travel.
Thus tribes.
john
"Man is a marvellous curiosity. When he is at his very, very best he is sort of a low-grade nickel-plated angel; at his worst he is unspeakable, unimaginable; and first and last and all the time he is a sarcasm."
Hi KB and John. Personally I think Hawks is just saying "the Emperor has no clothes" Right now the Out of Africa Theory rises and falls with genetic evidence, which is far from final completion.
I realize that we see articles posted all the time that proclaim "This proves the OOA theory". That's nonsense. Actually, I don't believe there is any fossil evidence for HSS in Europe before 30,000 BC.
The Neanderthal extinction some 30,000 years ago remains one of the great riddles of evolution, with rival theories blaming everything from genocide committed by "real" humans to prehistoric climate change.
But a recent study introduces another explanation: Stone Age feminism. Among Neanderthals, hunting big beasts was women's work as well as men's, so it's a safe bet that female hunters got stomped, gored, and worse with appalling frequency. And a high casualty rate among fertile women - the vital "reproductive core" of a tiny population - could well have meant demographic disaster for a species already struggling to survive among monster bears, yellow-fanged hyenas, and cunning Homo sapien newcomers.
I was just wondering the other day where the Neanderthal theory of the week was. It's actually been several weeks, but here it is. As usual, there is so much wrong with this article that I don't feel the need to comment.
This time - Neanderthal women joined the hunt. Yeah right.
Assuming that HSN understood the relationship between sexual congress and pregnancy they would indeed have to have been pretty stupid to risk their women.
If they didn't understand the connection they must have known that only females gave birth, so again they deserved extinction if they risked their females in this manner.
Sorry, I don't buy it!
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
