Global warming.

[Minimalist]

Is that better than shutting it down every night?

[Digit]

A British scientist recently stated that he could obtain a research grant for Hay for a rocking horse if, in his application, he stated that it would help prevent global warming!

[Digit]

Is that better than shutting it down every night?

Stop being logical Min, these people can't handle simple concepts!

[Minimalist]

Ah. touche!

[john]

The old childhood canto comes to mind.....

Cambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Mississippian, Pennsylvanian, Permian, Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous

Now could it be just possible that we, in

our infinite wisdom have

tapped into several hundred million years of

a highly effective carbon sink

and, like that other myth,

Pandora's Box, released it upon the world?

The reason I use the metaphor of Pandora's box

is that at the end of the day all that seems to remain is Hope.

Meanwhile, instead of any effective plan

for dealing with the problem,

we have spent all of our energy as regards this issue

creating a quasi-scientific/political

Verdun,

with utterly predictable consequences.


N'est ce pas?


john

[Ishtar]

A British scientist recently stated that he could obtain a research grant for Hay for a rocking horse if, in his application, he stated that it would help prevent global warming!

It's true. There's masses of money slushing around for anything to do with this right now. I work as an advertising copywriter in London's Soho (sort of equivalent of Madison Avenue but with blousier hookers), and the last three accounts I worked on were all websites to do with reducing your carbon footprint.

Of course, all these 'reduce your carbon footprint' websites are on computers, and computers are the biggest contributor to global warming after aircraft!

[kbs2244]

I didn't know where else to put this, but thought some would like to know about it.
He is using solar heat to re combine CO2 and water to make a fuel compatable with the current gasoline use and distribution system.

http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtm ... =205100670

Recycle your exhaust!?!
Does that count as perpepual motion?

[Beagle]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7197379.stm

A study by the Spanish Oceanographic Institute says levels have been rising since the 1970s with the rate of increase growing in recent years.

It says even a small rise could have serious consequences in coastal areas.

The study noted that the findings were consistent with other investigations into the effects of climate change.

The study, entitled Climate Change in the Spanish Mediterranean, said the sea had risen "between 2.5mm and 10mm (0.1 and 0.4in) per year since the 1990s".

If the trend continued it would have "very serious consequences" in low-lying coastal areas even in the case of a small rise, and "catastrophic consequences" if a half-metre increase occurred, the study warned.

Global climate change

Scientists noted that sea temperatures had also risen significantly by 0.12 to 0.5C since the 1970s.

Sea level rise is a key effect of global climate change. There are two major contributory effects: the melting of ice, and expansion of sea water as the oceans warm.

Last month, a study by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said the world's sea levels could rise twice as much this century as UN climate scientists had previously predicted.

The Nobel Prize-winning IPCC predicted a maximum sea level rise of 81cm (32in) this century.

Rising sea levels in the Med. partially caused by thermal expansion.

[kbs2244]

32 inchs max rise.
How does that compare to the scare stories we have been fed?

[Digit]

If you follow the GW fiasco you will find that each year has its new scare stories and each year something is down graded.
Wanna know what happened to the 'Hockey Stick'?
All the glaciers are melting.
There are about 160000 glaciers on this planet and about 400 are being monitored, part of the southern polar ice is thickening.
But who would buy newspaers with that as a headline?
Global temps are now below the 1986 level, CO2 is UP. No story in that is there?

[War Arrow]

Some good news though, Ken Livingstone's free newspaper The Londoner is encouraging recycling with an article in the latest edition which I, being a postman, have for some reason that escapes me, been required to deliver to 800 plus homes.

Yep. Nice easy to read article about sticking your cans in the recycle bin which just about everybody does anyway. That'll solve the problem.

I'm being sarcastic by the way.

I don't think these people really appreciate the irony of an article on recycling in their sodding free newspaper that no bugger actually wants shoved through their letterbox every four weeks. Somewhere in city hall right now there's a memo about a monster truck rally to raise awareness about cycling to work.

[Digit]

Bandwagons are like women's fashions, they are must haves.
My local council supplies bags of different colours in which to deposit different materials for 'recycling', which our local 'waste operatives', that's dustmen in plain language, then deposit into the same compactor for subsequent disposal elsewhere.
Somehow I very much doubt that compacting leaves the bags intact!

And I doubt the Ken or the other disciples will prevent this!
http://www.livescience.com/environment/ ... _tilt.html

[the_historian]

More proof that there is no scientific consensus on 'global warming' -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7194579.stm

[Beagle]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... eteorology

An armada of robot submarines and marine sensors are to be deployed across the Atlantic, from Florida to the Canary Islands, to provide early warning that the Gulf Stream might be failing, an event that would trigger cataclysmic freezing in Britain for decades.

The £16m system, called Rapid Watch, will use the latest underwater monitoring techniques to check whether cold water pouring south from melting Arctic ice sheets is diverting the current's warm waters away from Britain.

Without the Gulf Stream, the UK would be as cold as Canada in winter. Ports could freeze over and snowstorms and blizzards would paralyse the country. An extreme version of this meteorological mayhem provided the film The Day After Tomorrow with its plotline.

I'm glad the Gulf stream is going to be monitered. If it fails our Brit friends better get the hell out of England.

[Minimalist]

Just think what it would do for their hockey program.