Uncontacted Indians Spotted

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Uncontacted Indians Spotted

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Of course, they'll probably all be dead soon.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/200805 ... L5MG1.html
There are more than 100 uncontacted tribes worldwide, most of them in Brazil and Peru, the group said in a statement.

"These pictures are further evidence that uncontacted tribes really do exist," Survival director Stephen Corry said.

"The world needs to wake up to this, and ensure that their territory is protected in accordance with international law. Otherwise, they will soon be made extinct."
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L'histoire se répète.
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Minimalist wrote:Of course, they'll probably all be dead soon.
There are no uncontacted indigenes anywhere-just groups of people who know full well the price of contact with modern civilisations-people who want/need nothing from the outside. :roll:
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They will, however, get into contact with the outside world sometime. Inevitably. And the longer that is postponed, the greater the difference between the meeting cultures. And the greater the difference between the meeting cultures, the greater, or more disastrous, the ensuing clash.

So, ironically, the survival of their kind is better served by bringing them into contact with the rest of the world.
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i have a feeling they disagree with you RS. Most cultures that have been 'discovered' or 'assimilated' by one modern culture or another have suffered terrible losses, and i'm just talking about their heritage, not necessarily any physical hardships that contact causes.

If they want to meet modern civilization let them come to us. We've done more than enough damage to indigenous peoples.
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If they are uncontacted, how do they know how many there are?
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Never underestimate an expert's ability to come up with a stupid idea KB.
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Apprently these were photographed from the air. Hard to imagine that impacting their immune systems.
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There are many of these tribes and they have been under surveillance for some time. The CNN article says so. I am wondering, however, what is the point to keeping them pristine, if you can't study them?

Its like quantum mechanics - the very act of measuring changes the outcome.
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what is the point to keeping them pristine, if you can't study them?

They get to live.
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They're not going to live Min: not much longer in uncontacted conditions. They are rapidly being encroached upon, especially on the Peruvian side and I think there is little anyone can do to protect them. I'm not insisting we should intervene, but I think it will be necessary to intervene to save them.
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That was the conclusion of the article....sadly.


Maybe we should open a McDonalds and a Starbucks there?
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Minimalist wrote: Maybe we should open a McDonalds and a Starbucks there?
Naaah. Everything in the proper sequence, Min, it's a familiar recepy...:

you start with some mirrors and beads, and smiling a lot
then add handfulls of religion, knives, guns and firewater
then let it simmer, suffer, and fade, with some violent eruptions, for a century
then you offer the remaining pathetic 5% of 'm a couple casinos to ease your guilt complex.
Dinner's ready!
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:lol:
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