More about Homo erectus on Crete 130,000 years ago

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More about Homo erectus on Crete 130,000 years ago

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Some of you may remember that this story caused a heck of a stir when it first came out, because finding evidence of tools on Crete 130,000 years ago meant that Homo erectus or the Neanderthals had boats and could use them. Seeing as the official line is that boats didn't exist before about 7,000 years ago, (or is 7,000 BCE?) it really threw the cat among the pigeons from which, by all the accounts, the pigeons still haven't recovered and are trying to regroup.

Anyway, next month, the quartz tools found there will be described in detail in the June issues of the journal Hesperia, but courtesy of archaeologists Chris Hardaker and Julien Riel-Salvatore, here is a sneak preview.

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There is the usual debate raging about whether these are actually tools. As Julien Riel-Salvatore says,
More photographs are also available in a nice slideshow provided by Boston University press release, and they give you an idea of the size of the handaxes and of how they might have been handled. The thing with quartz, however, is that it's very hard to see flaking landmarks on photographs. For what it's worth, I still think that at least that handaxe looks very rough in craftsmanship (e.g., uneven thinning, apparently no basal thinning, very sinuous edges). Although that's not too unusual for pieces on quartz, I really hope that this one's not their best looking one!

To summarize the debate a bit, Strasser, Runnels and company have found these quartz implements whose morphology is reminiscent of that of handaxes in deposits dating to ca. 130,000 years BP on Crete. This is significant because Crete appears to have remained an island detached from the European mainland for most of the Pleistocene, which implies any tool maker on the island must have originally arrived there through some form of seafaring.
You can read the rest of his blog about them here

Chris also sent through another web page with more interesting detail:
“Objects like this have never been found on islands before, anywhere. For the last 150 years it was thought that early humans couldn’t cross the open sea,” says Runnels. “That now needs to be reexamined.”

Sponsored by the National Geographic Society, Runnels, Thomas Strasser of Providence College, and Eleni Panagopoulou of the Greek Ministry of Culture traveled to Crete in 2008 and 2009. When the project started, they were hoping to find evidence of seafarers from about 12,000 years ago.

Their survey focused mainly on the island’s southwestern coast, near the town of Plakias, where the team members recovered more than 2,000 artifacts from 28 sites. “I’m the one who identified the sites and worked out the protocol for dating them,” says Runnels, “so I played a major role.”

Artifacts were found in caves and rock shelters located in Preveli Gorge, where freshwater rivers and streams have eroded rocky sediment. Among the artifacts were hand axes, cleavers, and scrapers made from local quartz rock. According to Runnels, the tools may have been used to hollow out large tree trunks, to turn them into boats.

The team’s discovery puts centuries-old beliefs about movements of early humans out of Africa into question, according to Runnels, and will have worldwide implications. “Every hypothesis is suddenly on the rack,” he says.

Other large Mediterranean islands, such as Cyprus and Sardinia, will also need to be examined to learn more about early human occupation.

“We have also been contacted by archaeologists interested in early boats and early seafaring who are very excited by these finds,” he says.

This is not the first time Runnels has been involved in research that could shift paradigms. In the 1980s and 1990s, he helped show that the people of prehistoric Greece caused catastrophic environmental change through soil erosion and deforestation. “That work challenged a long-held belief that prehistoric peoples were careful stewards of the natural environment,” he says.

Other research by Runnels in Greece revealed that Neanderthals were not related to Homo sapiens.

“This is the way science works: new evidence leads to new hypotheses, which in turn lead to new syntheses of our understanding of the past,” he says.
And it looks as though one of Runnels own hypothesis is going to be overturned, now that Paabo has found that HS and Neanderthals did, in fact, interbreed.

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Awww, man. This is going to generate an annoying new land bridge theory with low sea levels to avoid the boat hangup, isn't it?

Boats good enough to hop aegeaian islands in perfect weather aren't that hard. Wood floats. Ogg sees wood float. Ogg lashes lots of wood. Now Ogg floats.
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One early HE variant – Meganthropus paleojavanicus – was already on Java 1,57 mya, Johnny!

A debate over whether HE was capable of sailing to Crete 130 kya is a rearguard skirmish. The battle is over.
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Rokcet Scientist wrote:One early HE variant – Meganthropus paleojavanicus – was already on Java 1,57 mya, Johnny!

A debate over whether HE was capable of sailing to Crete 130 kya is a rearguard skirmish. The battle is over.
I remember reading that. I think I lived in Oklahoma at the time and they referred to them there through the conservative ignorance filter as the "Fallen Angels of Asia" because no one in Oklahoma can pronounce, "Nephilim".
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Crete is a pretty long way from the Aegean , with real deep water and not very good winds unless given some sophisticated sailing techniques.
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kbs2244 wrote:Crete is a pretty long way from the Aegean , with real deep water and not very good winds unless given some sophisticated sailing techniques.
Huh?
Crete is the southern 'border' of the Aegean Sea, kb! It can't get any closer! Sailing to Crete is as sailing to any island in the Aegean is. I know. I did.

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Let me lend some small boat expertise. I grew up in the Aegean. My father used to take me rowing in the Dory. Sometimes island hopping. I have been planning a return in my kayak for years, now.

According to Goggle Earth, starting my old neighborhood in SW Turkey mainland, near Izmir, its only a few miles to Rhodes. Only 12 from Rhodes to Karpathos. 6 miles to Kasos, and finally, the most demanding leg of the trip would be about 30 miles of open sea to Crete.

Assuming a basic dug out canoe, hallowed out with fire and rough grinding stones, such as I have paddled in the Amazon, let us assume about 2- 3 MPH which is in the most efficient speed range for this type craft. Slightly faster with more than one paddler....

You could damn near swim from the mainland to Rhodes, its been done in modern time. And Rhodes is a large island plainly visible from the mainland.

The 12 miles to Kapathos. It should be visible from southern Rhode on a clear day. It would take half day boat trip.

A few hours to Kasos.

Here is the tricky part.... Pretty much anyway you try it, you have to make a 25-30 mile trip over open water to cross the Aegean. Kasos to Crete would be the most direct route. That means that Crete is out of sight over the horizon.

But still the longest leg of the trip could be easily done in under 15 hours. Especially with two paddlers. In these latitudes, in the summer, this means you could start at dawn and arrive before dark.

I have a friend who routinely does ocean crossing at these distances in a modern kayak.

Also, they are people today who can swim distances like this. The English Channel is about 21 miles
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Ummm... elephants can swim 50 miles, and (polar) bears 80 miles. Some do so every year again on their annual treks. Male and female, old and young. Have any of those, or similar species been found to have lived on Crete in the last dozen million years?
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I happen to recall that dwarf Hippos lived on Crete. Very aquatic creatures. Good swimmers. Probably dwarfed by the island effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus_creutzburgi

Hippo huntering was one of the reasons why the island was colonized in the first place.

Of course they were all wiped out because they were easy to hunt
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Here is the tricky part.... Pretty much anyway you try it, you have to make a 25-30 mile trip over open water to cross the Aegean. Kasos to Crete would be the most direct route. That means that Crete is out of sight over the horizon.
Crete might be out of sight, but a Big-Ass fire on the island would convince anyone downwind that there is a substantial land mass just over the horizon. "Hey, something's burning. Let's go look!"

Relevant point: The age for quartzite artifacts was initially reported as "a minimum of 130,00 years old, possibly much older". How much older? Nobody knows yet. However, they do appear Acheulian and scream out:

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Since Flores was settled more than 800kya years ago by crossing a 20 mile deepwater channel over the Wallace Line, Crete isn't out of the question.
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I don't know why, Cogs, but that image reminds me of Monty Python.


I keep expecting a big foot to stomp on it.
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Did Homo Erectus Surf?

Surf season is over here in NORCAL. Had some of my surfing buddies over this weekend for a pool party. Watching them, I started thinking...

No, seriously....

My first theory was a simple dug out canoe, and paddle. This would be very simple. I have seen them made in the Amazon. Fire is used to shape the hollow from a log. It could be further ground out using stone hand axes.

And then HE would have to invent the paddle...or maybe not...

What if the first water craft was more like a long surfboard, or paddle board? Then HE would not have to even invent the paddle. He would paddle with his hands.

Find a likely piece of driftwood in the surf. Play with it in the water. Learn it could be used to assist swimming over long distance. Slightly modified with fire and/or hand ax. Even coat it with animal fat to make it more waterproof.

Paddling 30 miles would be a pretty amazing feat for a modern day paddle boarded, but then HE was much more robust.

Of course, now you are talking speed of only 1-2 miles and hour.
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It's an interesting idea..... for short distances between islands that were visible to the naked eye it makes sense.

Of course, the sight of a single shark fin protruding from the water would be a hell of an incentive to invent the paddle.
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Minimalist wrote:Of course, the sight of a single shark fin protruding from the water would be a hell of an incentive to invent the paddle.
It doesn't have to be as dramatic as a shark fin, Min: touching a Portuguese Man o'War or one of his invisible cousin jellyfish will be an equally strong incentive.
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You get the idea though.
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