Seafaring HE vs. Megalodon

[Rokcet Scientist]

Meganthropus Paleojavanicus – an HE subspecies – and the Carcharodon Megalodon super-shark were contemporaries. IF Java was well separated from the SE Asian continental plate, as some maintain, MP would have had to deal with CM's habitat. Their meeting could have been the source for the tale of Jonah.




One wonders what remains of Carcharodon Megalodon, besides teeth, could ever have been found since their, and other sharks' skeletons totally consist of very perishable cartilage. Not bone.

[Digit]

Or perhaps they used boats!

Roy.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Or perhaps they used boats!

Carcharodon Megalodon ate boats...
That's probably why it went extinct: it starved for lack of boats!

[Minimalist]

They could pretty much eat whatever they wanted, I imagine.

[Digit]

According to Sartono et al the remains of Meganthropus Paleojavanicus in SE Asia post date Megalodon's extinction, so there was little danger of being eaten by one I think.

Roy.

[Rokcet Scientist]

According to Sartono et al the remains of Meganthropus Paleojavanicus in SE Asia post date Megalodon's extinction, so there was little danger of being eaten by one I think.

My data peg MP at 1,57 MYA, and CM's extinction at 1,5 MYA. If one assumes those figures are absolute, then they overlap. Even if they are fuzzy they still overlap. Thus HE/MP and CM coexisted in time. And geographically HE/MP must have negotiated CM's habitat in order to reach Java. Which he did. All that is assuming, as you a.o. do, that Sunda Strait (already) was a deep trench separating Sumatra and Java, and that it was the first deep water that HE/MP crossed on his trek from Africa. (Sounds like reaching to me).

OR HE walked to Java (and waded occassionaly) across the dry SE Asian continental plate/plain. And Sunda Strait, Java Sea, etc., were created later as a result of tectonic/volcanic convulsions (which should surprise no one in that most active of all tectonic/volcanic areas on earth) and 400 feet risen sea levels.

[Digit]

No dispute there RS, but I suggest you check on Sartono's dating, they may have overlapped indeed, but the remains post date Megalodon's extinction.
In exactly the same manner as HE may have reached the Americas 1000s of years ago, but the dated remains say later. Got it?

Roy.

[Rokcet Scientist]

No dispute there RS, but I suggest you check on Sartono's dating, they may have overlapped indeed, but the remains post date Megalodon's extinction.
In exactly the same manner as HE may have reached the Americas 1000s of years ago, but the dated remains say later. Got it?

Talk about avoiding the point...

[Digit]

No I'm not. The point I was making is that the dated material post dates Megalodon's extinction, you could surmise from that, if you wish, that no crossings were sucessful untill after Megalodon went extinct.

Roy.

[Rokcet Scientist]

No I'm not. The point I was making is that the dated material post dates Megalodon's extinction, you could surmise from that, if you wish, that no crossings were sucessful untill after Megalodon went extinct.

I covered that with "fuzzy".
And you're still avoiding the point...

[Digit]

I seem to have missed it, not avoid it.

Roy.