Neanderthal and Human Interbreeding Accepted?

[hardaker]

Aha. The Nookie Factor strikes again!!

[Minimalist]

Always an attention getter.

[circumspice]

The Denkmaeler plate 136 ab also from Seti's tomb. The various subject people of the empire are depicted in the presence of Horus. There is no indication on the part of the artist that the Nubians were in any way singled out for lesser status than the rest. The same pose, the same posture, the same size as everyone else.

Hey min, thanks for posting that fresco, another one I've never seen.

Let me modify my previous statement, I was tired and probably thought that people saw where I was going with this in my remarks. (you mean that you can't read my mind?! )
In the scope of the article, it mentions how far back the 'scientific racism' went. Um, 18th century, I believe?
Anyway, that's what I was referring to when I said:
I find it hard to fathom that something as beautiful as history can be so laden with personal agendas, for such a long period of time.

And just to make a non sequitur remark... Boy, those Libyans look like a bunch of biker dudes with all those tattoos! (and beards)
But, don't the ones on their lower legs look like greaves?

[Cognito]

Found in the Tomb of Ramses III (KV11) describing the four nations of men as translated by Budge:

"The first are RETH, the second are AAMU, the third are NEHESU, and the fourth are THEMEHU. The RETH are Egyptians, the AAMU are dwellers in the deserts to the east and north-east of Egypt, the NEHESU are the black races, and the THEMEHU are the fair-skinned Libyans."

During the time of Ramses I doubt that anyone cared much about contributions from another race one way or the other, and I always thought the Copts decended from the ancient Egyptians. Not Caucasian, not black, something in between which is probably best explained by the Hardaker Nookie Syndrome(1).

Further, I would imagine that most of the credit to ancient Egypt goes to the ancestors of the Copts and not exclusively to Caucasians or blacks. To argue otherwise is moronic and a violation of the Syndrome.


(1) Chris Hardaker (2011). All rights reserved.

[Minimalist]

I find it hard to fathom that something as beautiful as history can be so laden with personal agendas, for such a long period of time.

Surely, Circ, you've heard Napoleon's famous observation on history?

“History is a set of lies agreed upon.”

As far as slavery goes in the West, it starts here in an institutionalized manner:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas

Dum Diversas is a papal bull issued on June 18, 1452 by Pope Nicholas V, that is credited by some with "ushering in the West African slave trade."[1] It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to indefinite slavery.[2] Pope Calixtus III reiterated the bull in 1456 with Etsi cuncti, renewed by Pope Sixtus IV in 1481 and Pope Leo X in 1514 with Precelse denotionis. The concept of the consignment of exclusive spheres of influence to certain nation states was extended to the Americas in 1493 by Pope Alexander VI with Inter caetera

Hey...business is business!

Hardaker Nookie Syndrome

Chris, if you didn't get rich from The First Americans this one may do the trick!

[hardaker]

yeah sorry, seems I interrupted something. been out in east jesus doing other things non-arch and just ran across the article and posted. One thing I didn't catch was, if it is something for non-Africans, what about the Chinese? Or do they have neaderthal dna as well?

[Digit]

Tony Blair, who was the arch publicist, made a great event of apologising for slavery and celebrating the abolition of slavery's bi-centenary.
Typical politician, he was out by several hundred years.
A law was pased in England during the 12C, 'The Westminster Edict' making it illegal to buy or sell an Englishman as a slave.
The interesting point with early versus later slavery is that early slavery was not based on the idea of personal inferiority.
The only thing that made later slavery acceptable was the acceptance of the idea that slaves were simply 'God's Children' etc.
The Nazis had to de-humanise their victims to make their slaughter 'acceptable.'

Roy.

[E.P. Grondine]

We have to come up with a term more elegant and academic sounding than "Nookie Syndrome".
I open the floor for suggestions with "Hardakre Process".

[Minimalist]

No marketing appeal, E.P.

[E.P. Grondine]

"Hardaker Behaviorial Processes" - "HBP" for short - sounds scientific, and sounds similar to "HBP" used for "High Blood Pressure"

singular form - "Hardaker Behavioral Process"

[Minimalist]

Sex sells, E.P.

[Cognito]

Sex sells, E.P.

E.P., with a title like "Sex and Hot Times in the Americas" you'd be on your fourth edition by now. Just takes a little storyline editing, that's all.

[dannan14]

Sex sells, E.P.

Well, HBP does sound like an STD.

[Cognito]

One thing I didn't catch was, if it is something for non-Africans, what about the Chinese? Or do they have neaderthal dna as well?

Chris, the Chinese have HSN DNA also. How have you been? Is East Jesus somewhere near West BF Egypt?

[Digit]

For our American friends. We have a long running legal dispute here concerning illegal camp sites for 'Travellers', which is much discussed on various fora.
On one forum we have a couple of extreme left wingers, firmly dedicted to Political Correctness, they seem to believe that they are society's concience.
And watching them jumping through hoops in their attempts to avoid the word 'Race' is farcial!

Roy.