From todays news page
Rock art assumes early long range boat use.
http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/98668 ... ei-islands
and a related story
http://unews.utah.edu/news_releases/cal ... s-settled/
how-the-pacific was settled
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April 22, 2015 is in the first line of the story
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Lily wrote:Inthe editor mentions 'rock paintings' and 'cave paintings' as if they are different beasts. Aren't 'cave paintings' the same as 'rock paintings'?kbs2244 wrote:http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/98668 ... ei-islands
'Cave paintings' weren't painted on cardboard, were they?
The difference is probably that rock art is outdoors, exposed to the elements & cave art is nominally indoors & under cover. Rock art is therefore probably the more endangered art form.
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It is not a question of technique.
It is a question of location.
Cave painting , of course, underground.
Rock painting often just the opposite, high on mountain sides.
It is a question of location.
Cave painting , of course, underground.
Rock painting often just the opposite, high on mountain sides.
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Rockpainting, because of its nature is usually over painting - a ritual carried out regularly to keep the images fresh.
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Fwiw .Rock art covers adding pigment to rock and also extractive /engraving where surface laters are removed . Whether in the open or under cover doesn't matter .
Rock painting is often used by Australian resarchers to describe adding pigmnet to rock surfaces whether in the open or in rock shelters which can also be considered caves but distinct
from the limestone caves that feature cave art in Europe .
A lot depends on who is doing the description e.g. there are examples of rock art in caves in Scotland or even India that would never be described as cave art .
Even use of the term "art" is unhelpful .
Rock painting is often used by Australian resarchers to describe adding pigmnet to rock surfaces whether in the open or in rock shelters which can also be considered caves but distinct
from the limestone caves that feature cave art in Europe .
A lot depends on who is doing the description e.g. there are examples of rock art in caves in Scotland or even India that would never be described as cave art .
Even use of the term "art" is unhelpful .
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I suppose a fine line could be drawn between “art: and “painting” base on whether something was added to or taken from the surface.
“Painting” being adding something to cover the surface.
“Art” being the chipping or pecking away of some kind of natural occurring surface coating.
I do not know of any in a cave pecking away type “art.”
“Painting” being adding something to cover the surface.
“Art” being the chipping or pecking away of some kind of natural occurring surface coating.
I do not know of any in a cave pecking away type “art.”
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Both painting and engraving come under the umbrella term " rock art"kbs2244 wrote:I suppose a fine line could be drawn between “art: and “painting” base on whether something was added to or taken from the surface.
“Painting” being adding something to cover the surface.
“Art” being the chipping or pecking away of some kind of natural occurring surface coating.
I do not know of any in a cave pecking away type “art.”
Engravings are found in caves and rock shelters in all continents except Antartica .
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I'd read a summation of this article but it's a different more sensible piece of work in it's entirety and supports much of what I've observed visiting remote islands in the South Pacific.
I'd read a summation of this article but it's a different more sensible piece of work in it's entirety and supports much of what I've observed visiting remote islands in the South Pacific.