More Adena monoliths

[Simon21]

I have never pretended to be Shawnee.

What I stated was that I am 1/8 Shawnee by blood quotient.
I also stated that it is highly unlikely that the Denning's will gain a casino license in Maryland.

I read the blogs I saw how they traced your ancestry, so lying about it goes nowhere. Claiming to be an eighth anything is fatuous

I have never shared here any accounts of my meetings with the curators of any museums,or my meetings with site managers.

So why make lying remarks about exhibits in museums when, like Tiompan, you have obviously not seen them? Or pretend to have read texts you have never heard of before?

Excuse me, but I was banned for pointing out to manned Mars flight "enthusiasts"
that Mars is a cold, irradiated rock, with a vacuum for an atmosphere.
Which facts completely blow those enthusiasts' con.

Not for lying about being Shawnee - they seemed pretty annoyed?

The early Anglo Saxons were lying murdering thieves.

Repitition
On the other hand they were saints compared to modern Americans, colonial Americans, Japanese, Dutch, Russians, Israelies, white Australians -
most ancient peoples were compared to their descendants.
You are not mentally capable of understanding ancient people.
Stick to something you do understand like porn

My pamphlets are doing quite fine.
There is nothing "arcane" about recent small comet and asteroid impacts.

But you have agreed you are a liar (claiming visits to Scotland, friendships with archaeologists, strokes,
Pictish jewellery workshops, faked indian ancestretc)
so this can be dismissed can't it

Many conmen feel the same way.
Why if only I would go away,
they could operate far more freely,
being completely free from
the constraints imposed by any facts.

I don't associate with conmen like you have just admitted you do.
Might be worth researching if you have done time in chokey - for a laugh.

Well simon, they say that Jesus said that lying is a sin.
They also say that Jesus said that sinners would burn in hell.
And they they also say that Christ advised to love your enemies.

Repeating your former misquoting of the Bible

So what do we have, a load of reptition and a a virtual admission that this individual did indeed lie, as was supposed

More fish in a barrell and high time for a banning

[Simon21]

There certainly seems to be some shared guilt here.
Something that should have stopped long ago.
I would hate to see either, or both, banned.
Despite their occasional rants, they often have some insightful comments.

Pardon me but I happen to know something about this area which I have demonstrated.

All the conman has is a few sweeps of the internet and incoherent babbling about there being no seals in the north sea, Scotland is in Denmark and the acculturalisation of the Roman British took part North of hadrians Wall where no one actually spoke Englsih.

Plus incoherent ravings about Western Picts, Scottish russians etc. He is obviously high when making some comments

He merely uses this site to try and pretend some knowledge about archaeology so he can sell some wretched pamphlets about asteroidsigent to

He apparently thinks it appropriate to call people who study the A/S nazi sympathisers

He pollutes the site and needs to go

[E.P. Grondine]

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ACCOUNT OF BLACK EYED TWIGGS BY JOHN M. TWIGG born December 24, 1845, at Twiggtown, Allegany County, Maryland
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdall ... -twigg.htm
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But as prolific as were the progeny of the original three blue-eyed Twigg brothers, John, Robert and Francis,
they were far outnumbered by the black-eyed Twiggs by the end of the third generation, all of whom, it would seem,
sprang from their single progenitor, BLACK-EYED JOHN TWIGG, WHO WAS THE OWNER OF THREE OTHER NICK-NAMES, NAMELY:
"THE GREAT JOHN TWIGG", "FLEET-FOOTED JOHN TWIGG", AND "STAMPING JOHN TWIGG", who built himself a log cabin on the east side of the Sink Hole Bottom Pond at Twig town and went away and was gone for a long time. WHEN HE RETURNED HE BROUGHT A BLACK-EYED, VERY DARK COMPLEXIONED BRIDE WITH HIM, AND IT WAS SOON TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHE WAS AN INDIAN SQUAW.

Be that as it may, she was a good woman and a very wonderful one, for she bore and reared to manhood twelve stalwart, black-eyed, black-haired, swarthy skinned sons, and the thirteenth born was a daughter named Savilla, who lived to care for her mother when she was old.
This good woman who had to mother this family of twelve sons and one daughter, and do most of the providing for them,
for John of the black eyes was a great hunter, which means he was a no-account, ne'er-do-well farmer.
So if she was not an Indian woman, she at least had an Indian woman's strength, thrift and intimate knowledge of extracting a living
from God's great out-of-doors and the industry of her own hands. Her husband, the "Great John Twigg," was a roistering,
jovial giant and possessed of tremendous strength and hardihood. He was always present when there was anything going on.
No distance was too great for him to cover to be present at a chicken-fight or man-fight, corn husking, woodchopping,
barn or house raising, public sale, election or circus for a half hundred miles around.

The writer tried for months to find out from the oldest Twiggs living, and their oldest neighbors, what was the name of black-eyed John Twigg's wife,
and all that he could get from them was that she had always gone by the name of "Mummy" Twigg. Finally in desperation he went to the Court House
and found that she had, on the sixteenth day of May, 1837, made her last will and testament, and had it witnessed by John North, David Twigg, her blue-eyed son-in-law, and Samuel Dannison, and her will reads like any other white woman's will; it says: "I, Ruth, bequeath to my sons Nathan, Elias, Francis, Brice, Greenbury, Osborn, Simon, Aden, John, Robert, Sela and Ely, each the sum of twenty-five cents. All the rest and residue of my property both real and personal, to my daughter Savilla, and I hereby constitute and appoint my daughter Savilla Twigg to be my sole executrix of this my last will and testament."

[Since "Indians" had no legal rights, it is highly likely that the name "Ruth Farmer" was created by the blue-eyed Twiggs so that they could buy Mummy Twigg's land.]

I am 1/8 Shawnee by blood quotient, and have DNA test results and records sufficient to prove that in a court of law.

So back here in the real world, how much money should I sue Ms Denning for for talking smack about my mom's family?
Or is it better to just get together with the other Shanwee descendants in Maryland,
and make certain that neither she nor her brother ever get a casino licence in Maryland?
Or both, doing first things first?

[E.P. Grondine]

If anyone should be banned it is you,
and your use of michelle's board to call Tiompan a liar
should have been enough to cause that.

As far as what you know,
it is so little that you resort to building strawmen
and name calling.

Michelle, could I please be allowed to make this fool's visits here
as uncomfortable as possible for him?

[Simon21]

by E.P. Grondine » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:35 pm



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ACCOUNT OF BLACK EYED TWIGGS BY JOHN M. TWIGG born December 24, 1845, at Twiggtown, Allegany County, Maryland
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdall ... -twigg.htm
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But as prolific as were the progeny of the original three blue-eyed Twigg brothers, John, Robert and Francis,
they were far outnumbered by the black-eyed Twiggs by the end of the third generation, all of whom, it would seem,
sprang from their single progenitor, BLACK-EYED JOHN TWIGG, WHO WAS THE OWNER OF THREE OTHER NICK-NAMES, NAMELY:
"THE GREAT JOHN TWIGG", "FLEET-FOOTED JOHN TWIGG", AND "STAMPING JOHN TWIGG", who built himself a log cabin on the east side of the Sink Hole Bottom Pond at Twig town and went away and was gone for a long time. WHEN HE RETURNED HE BROUGHT A BLACK-EYED, VERY DARK COMPLEXIONED BRIDE WITH HIM, AND IT WAS SOON TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHE WAS AN INDIAN SQUAW.

Be that as it may, she was a good woman and a very wonderful one, for she bore and reared to manhood twelve stalwart, black-eyed, black-haired, swarthy skinned sons, and the thirteenth born was a daughter named Savilla, who lived to care for her mother when she was old.
This good woman who had to mother this family of twelve sons and one daughter, and do most of the providing for them,
for John of the black eyes was a great hunter, which means he was a no-account, ne'er-do-well farmer.
So if she was not an Indian woman, she at least had an Indian woman's strength, thrift and intimate knowledge of extracting a living
from God's great out-of-doors and the industry of her own hands. Her husband, the "Great John Twigg," was a roistering,
jovial giant and possessed of tremendous strength and hardihood. He was always present when there was anything going on.
No distance was too great for him to cover to be present at a chicken-fight or man-fight, corn husking, woodchopping,
barn or house raising, public sale, election or circus for a half hundred miles around.

The writer tried for months to find out from the oldest Twiggs living, and their oldest neighbors, what was the name of black-eyed John Twigg's wife,
and all that he could get from them was that she had always gone by the name of "Mummy" Twigg. Finally in desperation he went to the Court House
and found that she had, on the sixteenth day of May, 1837, made her last will and testament, and had it witnessed by John North, David Twigg, her blue-eyed son-in-law, and Samuel Dannison, and her will reads like any other white woman's will; it says: "I, Ruth, bequeath to my sons Nathan, Elias, Francis, Brice, Greenbury, Osborn, Simon, Aden, John, Robert, Sela and Ely, each the sum of twenty-five cents. All the rest and residue of my property both real and personal, to my daughter Savilla, and I hereby constitute and appoint my daughter Savilla Twigg to be my sole executrix of this my last will and testament."

[Since "Indians" had no legal rights, it is highly likely that the name "Ruth Farmer" was created by the blue-eyed Twiggs so that they could buy Mummy Twigg's land.]

OMG

Were the Twigg children called twiglets

The writer tried for months to find out from the oldest Twiggs living, and their oldest neighbors, what was the name of black-eyed John Twigg's wife,
and all that he could get from them was that she had always gone by the name of "Mummy" Twigg.

What/ even when she was born?

Ahem how did John get "black eyed"? Mummy Twigg not around quite enough was she (must run in the family)? Or was she around too much and this is an early reference to domestic violence?

God too funny I will certainly keep this for reference - I might send it to the producers of "Family Guy"

I am 1/8 Shawnee by blood quotient, and have DNA test results and records sufficient to prove that in a court of law.

But you haven't done you old conman and you won't you were sprung. Blood quotient - my very sophisiticated sure you don't mean blood libel. Cut the racist c***.

So back here in the real world, how much money should I sue Ms Denning for for talking smack about my mom's family?
Or is it better to just get together with the other Shanwee descendants in Maryland,
and make certain that neither she nor her brother ever get a casino licence in Maryland?
Or both, doing first things first?

Gotta say it old mate don't show them the above you'll have them rolling in the aisles. Actually to be fair its your work - you send it to "Family Guy" . I will openly say it - this is near brilliance I can hear Peter Griffin speaking the words.

[Simon21]

If anyone should be banned it is you,
and your use of michelle's board to call Tiompan a liar
should have been enough to cause that.

Tiompan called you a liar and a fantasist didn't he mate. And you started shrieking at him.

As far as what you know,
it is so little that you resort to building strawmen
and name calling.

Like calling someone a gay sheep f*** nazi? Well here's one for you - homophobic - antisemite

Michelle, could I please be allowed to make this fool's visits here
as uncomfortable as possible for him?

Before you are arrested? Really getting to you aren't I - showing you up for the cr**** you are

[MichelleH]

Simon and EP, either go to your separate corners to have fits or I will ban both of your and lock these topics you two keep bashing on about. We are all adults, act like it. If anyone comes to this board and takes the word of 'one' as truth or gospel (as they say), then they are the fool for not conducting their own research and readings. HOWEVER, I will not put up with hissy fits from members, ask Marduk and Dr.Archaeologist how that went for them.

[kbs2244]

That is once.....

[Simon21]

No problem here as lomng as one hears less about Nazis, gays, w***** and f****** and Mars
.
Perhaps an injunction to keep to the subject and use real accredited acepted sources might also not go astray

[shawomet]

Sometimes interesting discussions have taken place on this board. And I don't wish to be too judgemental, because I can fly off the handle as easily as the next guy, but, that said, who in their right mind would want to read the comments that have ensued as a result of a couple of people going at it to such an over the top extent? It's been ridiculous, and I guess that's me being judgemental, but really, it's been flat out insane.....

[kbs2244]

A true Tempest in a Teapot

[MichelleH]

Simon, neither you or E.P. gets the last word here. It's over, move on.

[circumspice]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws

[E.P. Grondine]

well spice, when asked about it before I would say
"One eighth, just enough for diabetes and a stroke, but not enough for the casino".

(it is 1/4 bq for the casino, but then it is strange that they never check mt DNA)

The other effect of my Native Ancestry was a strong sense of insecurity,
developed over 200 years of hiding.

I now say
"Indian? I want you to know that my family has been white for 200 years,
and I have the papers to prove it."

At least I inherited the unusual sense of humor which the Shawnee were noted for.

[circumspice]

I would qualify as a native American only if the one drop rule applied. I had my DNA tested by two different sources. The consensus is that my last full blooded native American ancestor is six generations removed from me. That was slightly unexpected because firstly, I didn't believe the family lore that stated that we had native American ancestry. And secondly because having native American ancestry was looked down upon even in fairly recent times... it was a deep, dark family secret. My family couldn't even agree upon which tribe was the most likely... The two most likely tribes live on the same reservation. One is highly romanticized & the other is virtually unheard of. My vote goes for the lesser known tribe only because people tend to try to inflate their sense of self importance even with trivial matters.

So I won't be claiming Native American ancestry.