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There are several myths about Pre-Inca Civilizations. As with all ancient civilizations, legends and ancient stone carvings and monuments speak of creation by gods who came from the skies, yet no one is certain how any of these civilizations came into being. Many just seem to spring up as if out of no where.

did you actually read the quote
there is no pre inca civilisation that has a myth about gods who come from the skies
none of the civilisations sprang up out of nowhere
archaeologists are certain how these civilisations came into being
you know in a lot of ways you are a complete waste of space

if you think crystal links is a reliable source then i suggest you actually do a little checking without being so gullible and believing evrything you hear
what they wrote about the hopi is not only totally incorrect its also quite offensive

marduk wrote:

archaeologists are certain how these civilisations came into being

Could you amplify on this point, please?

in all cases they didn't spring up from nowhere
the earliest civilisation at Caral sprang up as if by magic from the indigenous indians in the norte chico area in the supe valley
Crystal links implies that one minute there was no one there and the next theres a city with temples ball courts and thousands of people and organised religion
thats clearly not the case

marduk wrote:

There are several myths about Pre-Inca Civilizations. As with all ancient civilizations, legends and ancient stone carvings and monuments speak of creation by gods who came from the skies, yet no one is certain how any of these civilizations came into being. Many just seem to spring up as if out of no where.

did you actually read the quote
there is no pre inca civilisation that has a myth about gods who come from the skies
none of the civilisations sprang up out of nowhere
archaeologists are certain how these civilisations came into being
you know in a lot of ways you are a complete waste of space

if you think crystal links is a reliable source then i suggest you actually do a little checking without being so gullible and believing evrything you hear
what they wrote about the hopi is not only totally incorrect its also quite offensive

I see no reference to the Hopi on that page....which is not surprising as it deals with South America.

What are you smoking?

crystalinks isn't a page
its a website
it says a lot about the hopi
90% of it is contrived

I only posted one page.

well the one page you posted was full of crap
like the rest of the website

oh and its golden virginia
unfortunately

There is a half-way decent show on history channel later - an episode of "Digging for the Truth", which I usually hate but does give some good examples of Amazonian cultures,artwork, and agriculture. They were really able to make super-soil. Not too bad.

http://archaeology.about.com/od/ancient ... lquipu.htm

The recovery of quipu from the civilization of Caral, if the context and dates are correct, suggests several things. First, this is additional evidence that Caral was a precursor to the Inca civilization (since the Incas also used quipu). Secondly, quipu as a tradition dates at least 2000 years older than we recognized prior to this point. Thirdly, and most importantly, if quipu were indeed a form of written communication, they are among the earliest forms of writing in the world, only slightly younger than cuneiform, which has been identified at the Mesopotamian site of Uruk approximately 3000 years BC. As a very recently identified civilization of the world, Caral has the potential to help us rewrite human history.

Another discovery like Caral and it may prove to be the oldest civilization on earth.

Beagle wrote:There is a half-way decent show on history channel later - an episode of "Digging for the Truth", which I usually hate but does give some good examples of Amazonian cultures,artwork, and agriculture. They were really able to make super-soil. Not too bad.

I thought I was the only one who thought that show was the pits. What a pompous ass that guy is.

It seems odd to refer to quipus as "written" forms of communication.
Maybe another word like "permanent record" would be more accurate.
Or maybe "accounting method."
So far the only the only clue to the meaning of the quipus is that
MAYBE some of the knots identify a location.
Apparently they mean something...At least it is clear that they are not merely decorative, but the meaning may be mostly numerical, like a leger, rather than emotive...so no love letters? Something like this has been said about "proto" writing in the fertile crescent.
So a message might be something like, "At Village III, King D3 has 400 subjects. At the autumnal equinox In the year 4X*7a Village III gave 50 llamas, 100 kilos of
corn, 10 barrels of beer, 20 warriors and 12 virgins to King D3.
Signed, "12-knot," tax collector for King D3."
Official historical record keeping seems to be subject of most of the
heiroglyphics in early america & elsewhere, and more than likely they were almost a secret code, with only the upper castes, priests and public officials, understanding them. I wonder how many people could "read" a quipu? Just thinking out loud here....

only slightly younger than cuneiform, which has been identified at the Mesopotamian site of Uruk approximately 3000 years BC

the electronic pennsylvania sumerian dictionary has a date range that starts at 3500bce
proto cuneiform that preceeded cuneiform proper dates from before 4000bce

http://agutie.homestead.com/files/Quipu_B.htm

Several discussions regarding the Quipu, including the one found at Caral.

Turn DOWN your speakers unless you like funky music.

Looks like an abacus.

IF there was a language of the quipus, it would seem that
it might be related to the glyph system, linguistically.