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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:29 pm
by Minimalist
I also think Huckabee may be with us for another six weeks. Hope not though.

Is that like a modern Groundhog Day?

I think Huckabee is doing the right thing. He's positioning himself for 2012 and plans to use McCain's failure to show the evangelical base of the party that it has to turn to HIM in 2012. It's like arguing with an umpire. You're arguing for the next call...not the last one.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:00 pm
by Beagle
Huckabee may indeed run in a later contest, but he has to make a living in the meantime. I think he may be a TV preacher. :roll:

There has been a huge shift in the Republican party. Folks are pretty sick of the religious right, and especially of the silly notion of blocking stem cell research.

Everyone is sick of Bushes and Clintons. It's been 28 years of that. They are done one way or another. If you guys can't beat Hillary, we sure will.

It shocked the RNC when the voters picked McCain, a moderate. I think this is a new day.

I don't think Hillary is going to get out. She may take it all the way to the convention.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:40 pm
by Minimalist
Folks are pretty sick of the religious right, and especially of the silly notion of blocking stem cell research.

Yeah but politics makes strange bedfellows and watching McCain and the others trying to kiss their asses was pretty revolting early on. It didn't work. They don't like McCain and probably never will. The only reason it didn't kill McCain is because there were so many similar GOP candidates dividing up the vote. BUt it doesn't matter to them. They'll be perfectly willing to let McCain go down in flames so that their boy will pick up the reins next time.

Hell....half of them probably doubt that there will be an election in 2012. They think Jesus will get here first.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:06 pm
by MichelleH
Hell....half of them probably doubt that there will be an election in 2012. They think Jesus will get here first.
Unless the Maya beat them to it......

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:09 pm
by Minimalist
Wouldn't that be a kick in the ass for the fundies!

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:07 pm
by Beagle
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062008/ne ... 100624.htm
"The only reason we ever lose is when we beat ourselves," one nervous Democrat grumbled yesterday as the primary dogfight dragged on.
What planet has this guy been on? He thinks that's true for 9 out of the last 14 elections? Or that Ross Perot had nothing to do with Clinton's win?

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:40 pm
by Beagle
Obama won in Wyoming by a 2-1 margin. After that debacle last Tuesday I thought he might be done. So, he increased his delegate lead by about 4.

Mississippi next Tuesday.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:21 am
by Beagle
I was elected to be a delegate to the 2002 Libertarian national convention. While I was there, Ron Paul was a side-speaker one evening. Out of several available opportunities, I went to listen to him.

Paul talked about how much money we would spend in coming years on airline security. The key point he made was that 911 could have been dealt with for the cost of 4 handguns.

He is a quirky fellow, but he brought everyone to their feet with that statement. He is a Libertarian that has been running on a Reublican ticket for quite a while. Lately, he seems to be getting a bit more radical, or at least some of his supporters have.

He has bowed out of the campaign, but I'm sure that he will be at the convention.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:12 pm
by MichelleH
For your reading pleasure......

Ancient Greeks offer clues for modern-day Democrats
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_8511396

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:18 pm
by Minimalist
The people of Athens democratically pooled their knowledge and aligned behind a bold plan offered by a thoughtful leader.

We wouldn't do that. JOhn McCain would be building a papier-mache wall for us to hide behind.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:14 pm
by Beagle
A specter is stalking the Democratic Party. If neither Sen. Barack Obama nor Sen. Hillary Clinton gains a majority of committed delegates, the nomination for the Democratic candidate for president will be decided by several hundred superdelegates, who could resort to the tradition of brokering a deal in a smoke-filled room.
There's just no way I can see this happening. Although superdelegates only exist as a means to overturn the will of the voters, they won't do anything but support the candidate who won the most votes.

With all the scrutiny during this primary, they wouldn't dare do anything else. It would be pushing a nuclear button. :D

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:30 pm
by Minimalist
Of course, in the old days the smoke-filled rooms DID produce candidates who were centrist and electable.

The primary system lends itself to the extremists on both sides prevailing.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:36 pm
by Digit
Maybe I'm missing something about the American sytem, if counting delegates produces a 'hung' result, what's wrong with counting the votes cast for each candidate?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:37 pm
by Minimalist
Far too simple, Dig. WE have to over-engineer EVERYTHING.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:41 pm
by Digit
You are not alone!