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14-36,000 Years Ago Winds Across North America From the East
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No argument here.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
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Many years ago the triggering event for my interest in this subject was a newspaper account of a find of "Cro-Magnon" skeletons which were estimated at six feet tall.
A year or so earlier I had gone with my sixth grade class to the Barnum museum in Bridgeport, Ct and been fascinated by the mummy of a high priest of something. That mummy was barely 4 feet tall and was of a 40 year old male.
The discrepancy was enough, at the time, to make me wonder about the general line of thought that was being put out as "world history."
By the way, and Gunny just mentioned this in another thread, Mann reports that the earliest chroniclers of contact with native americans were universal in their descriptions of them being larger and healthier than the supposedly more advanced Europeans.
A year or so earlier I had gone with my sixth grade class to the Barnum museum in Bridgeport, Ct and been fascinated by the mummy of a high priest of something. That mummy was barely 4 feet tall and was of a 40 year old male.
The discrepancy was enough, at the time, to make me wonder about the general line of thought that was being put out as "world history."
By the way, and Gunny just mentioned this in another thread, Mann reports that the earliest chroniclers of contact with native americans were universal in their descriptions of them being larger and healthier than the supposedly more advanced Europeans.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
-- George Carlin
The subject of Cro-Magnon's height is something that I have wondered about Min and is one of the points that led me to believe that we are hybrids. Accepting that diet etc will effect stature the Victorian British people were definitely a small people.
Although the Duke of Wellington and Cecil Rhodes were both in excess of 6ft such was the exception that people always commented upon their size.
Our local museum shows clothing from all 'classes' of people and few are over 5ft 6in
Victoria was 4ft 3inches at age 18, but later she was supposed to be 5ft 2inch but few images show her feet so I suspect there was some help there.
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Although the Duke of Wellington and Cecil Rhodes were both in excess of 6ft such was the exception that people always commented upon their size.
Our local museum shows clothing from all 'classes' of people and few are over 5ft 6in
Victoria was 4ft 3inches at age 18, but later she was supposed to be 5ft 2inch but few images show her feet so I suspect there was some help there.
Roy.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
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Diet is, I suspect, the primary factor. Again, recall the descriptions of early chroniclers about the native americans as being tall and healthy compared, one supposes, to the Europeans.
I also seem to recall a fairly recent study which suggested that the HG lifestyle was actually far superior to the grain based diets of the European peasantry. The agricultural revolution may have produced quantity but the quality may have suffered.
I also seem to recall a fairly recent study which suggested that the HG lifestyle was actually far superior to the grain based diets of the European peasantry. The agricultural revolution may have produced quantity but the quality may have suffered.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
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Besides, not only physical characteristics adapt with a changing lifestyle and diet! Lifestyle and diet changes can trigger dramatic genetic changes as well (http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceN ... 18?sp=true)!
Add that recently discovered 5th DNA nucleotide into the equation (how many more will there be discovered still...?), and it is obvious that there still is a mountain of research needed before any kind of scientifically acceptable conclusions can be drawn from (eu)genetic analyses!
Add that recently discovered 5th DNA nucleotide into the equation (how many more will there be discovered still...?), and it is obvious that there still is a mountain of research needed before any kind of scientifically acceptable conclusions can be drawn from (eu)genetic analyses!