Bosnian pyramids, photos

[stellarchaser]

And how do you know how long he was there? I've seen all sorts of nonsense, claims that he was drunk, whatever.

And do you work for the Foundation?

I am not working for foundation, never had been working and haven't even been in Visoko. I just have some opinion about whole thing. I hope it's not a crime.

And I don't ask anybody here who do they work for, although that question can be asked too. I though that we would discuss these excavations in civilized manner, waiting to see what will be found out there. I think any scientist with good will and proffesional curiosity should do that.

Ok, thanks for your answer. I thought you might be someone you obviously aren't.

I apologise Doug for my a bit angry answer. I just want to have normal conversation with people here about excavations. I think that possible discoveries on Visocica should be interesting for all involved one way or another with archeology. And here everything is revolving about Osmanagich, which I can't understand. It is true that Osmanagic is not archeologist, but he's not involved in excavations, there are three proffesional archeologists there now. And he's done at least one good thing - raised question about Visocica, something that proffessional archeologists should have done years ago. I'm the first person who would like to see more experts on that hill, because it's huge hill will lot of work there, and every expert could benefit this project. I'm convinced that more interesting discoveries are ahead of us.

[stellarchaser]

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I'm a professional archaeologist; for your information, I've probably forgotten more about the subject than you are ever likely to learn.[/quote]

Typical english arogancy.

Can Your Highness come down a bit from a throne to address us mortals in the gutter?

And is Your Highness, as proffessional archeologist, interested at all what lies on Visocica Hill?

And can we humbly remind Your Highness that Visocica Hill lies in the near vicinity of Butmir Culture (3500 BC), one of the largest and most famous prehistoric cultures of that time, whose products, because of their quality, spread out throughout the Europe at the time? Well, be caferul that you don't forget more than you want; it's not good for any scientist.

[Ciko]

exclusive photos of bosnisn pyramid of sun , from Helicopter










and photos from excavations , moon pyramid

[stellarchaser]

So, does anyone see Old Town Visoko on the top of the Hill? Old Town that was the reason for some to sign letter to UNESCO? It's gonne, due to "care" of proffessional archeologists. And it was capital of Bosnia in medieaval times.

As for the pictures, I think they need no comment, only right side is a bit eroded, for some reason. (earthquake, flood?) If nature carved this shape, it is more than unusual case of natural phenomena. I'm bit sceptic about "smart" nature in this case, mostly because of these sharp angles.

Ciko, thank you very much for there pictures.
Hvala!

[alrom]

Maybe we should do a recap of what has been shown on those pictures.

*Rectangular conglomerate blocks, placed one on top of the other

*Big irregular conglomerate blocks, piled and placed tightly one next to the other and following the hill's slope

*Big irregular sandstone blocks, also placed tightly one next to the other and following hill's slope

*Huge rocks sprouting from the ground in a weird way

*Square pavement-like small (30-50 cm) sandstone blocks, horizontal to the ground There's another pavement about 1 m. above the first one

*Something that looks like a wall (from so-called Moon Pyramid)

*Some other pavement, this one bigger than the other ones. Horizontally placed.

*Tunnels, dug (not built with blocks) in what looks like the same conglomerate as in other findings in the surface

Even if you don't believe in the geologists' results that say that it's a natural formation, or the opinion of Dr. Harding, or the opinion of all the geologists and archeologists that just looking at the pictures claim that it's not man-made...

Do you think that all those kinds of rocks are consistent with a pyramid?
do you think that the pyramid was built in different ways at different places?
why should they build a pavement that goes UNDER a second pavement?
What do you think about the tunnels?
Shouldn't we expect tunnels built with stone blocks like in Giza?
What makes you think they are not mines?

(er, sorry for my english, I might have written funny things in there )

(Edit: btw I live just in front of my city's egyptology museum, I just heard a whole school starting their tour... )

[stellarchaser]

Do you think that all those kinds of rocks are consistent with a pyramid?
do you think that the pyramid was built in different ways at different places?
why should they build a pavement that goes UNDER a second pavement?
What do you think about the tunnels?
Shouldn't we expect tunnels built with stone blocks like in Giza?
What makes you think they are not mines?

(er, sorry for my english, I might have written funny things in there )

Can you accept the fact that excavations just begun? Some archeological sites are excavated for decades before some definite answers were given. I hope that archeologists on this thread would agree at least with that. At this point nobody on earth can answer your questions. Nor mine:)

And why must be any simmilarity with Giza? They used different material, because not all regions in the world have same geological structure. What to expect? That ancient bosnian builders imported stone from Egypt? Look at the Greek pyramids (which are older than egyptian ones, according to Greek archeologists), they are different too. Same as chinese pyramids which were constructed with different material (earth, I think).

[Ciko]

Even if you don't believe in the geologists' results that say that it's a natural formation, or the opinion of Dr. Harding,

harding was never there to see all evidence

or the opinion of all the geologists and archeologists

geologists who said that this is natural formation, was there two days before excavations started ,

and what archelogist did say

Do you think that all those kinds of rocks are consistent with a pyramid?

yes

do you think that the pyramid was built in different ways at different places?

i dont know maybe

why should they build a pavement that goes UNDER a second pavement?

you ask to much, maybe we should call those who buiold thiese pyramids, ask them

What do you think about the tunnels?

definitly man-made, everybody said that both geologists and geophysist

Shouldn't we expect tunnels built with stone blocks like in Giza?

and tell me why should we always comapre with egyptian pyramids and tunels ????????????????????????

What makes you think they are not mines?

beacuse miners analized tunels in the beginging of the excavations and said that it is not mines

[stellarchaser]

I think I read somewhere on the Foundation site that people who are investigating tunnels confirmed that on every 30 meters there are air ventilation openings in the tunnels.

[Beagle]

http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/25850.html


This blog posted on Archaeologica today. Os has made some outrageous claims. Those claims are making it impossible for most people to take a moderate, "wait and see" attitude.

He really needs a PR man.

[Ciko]

bosnian stone balls

[stellarchaser]

http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/25850.html


This blog posted on Archaeologica today. Os has made some outrageous claims. Those claims are making it impossible for most people to take a moderate, "wait and see" attitude.

He really needs a PR man.

And what you would like to do? stand up...and what? Do something unmoderate? like what? Don't you think you are taking too much freedom; Bosnia isn't banana republic that any "white man" can decide are we going to excavate something or not. Could you please have some more sensible approach toward other people. I you have anything against Osmanagich, sue him. But you definitely won't be deciding what would be researched in our country or not.

This is looking now like a manhunt, and that's says enough about the way some scientist here think. I simply can't understand that there are so mmany "blood thirsty" archeologists here, interested in only Osmanagich .

For gowd sake, it'll go down in history as "osmanagich syndrom" among archeologists.

[Beagle]

My position all along has been a moderate, "let's wait and see" attitude.

It's impossible to ignore what Os has said however. His extraordinary claims are the reason for so much resistance being generated. As time goes by it is my belief that the world will do more watching than screaming.

[stellarchaser]

My position all along has been a moderate, "let's wait and see" attitude.

It's impossible to ignore what Os has said however. His extraordinary claims are the reason for so much resistance being generated. As time goes by it is my belief that the world will do more watching than screaming.

Beagle, please forgive me for for my rather bitter answer, but the whole thing revolves about Osmanagich, instead of Visochica Hill. He has his own views, which I sometimes deeply dissagree with, and all of us can have opinion about his views. But he is not immportant in this story, because we have ongoing archeological excavations that can be very interesting and possibly immportant.


Has anybody of scientists here spoke with Osmanagich? is anybody told him: "Ok fellow, you talk non-sense, but let's see how to do these excavations properly." I think not. All we getting on threads and blogs never ending spitting, without any constructive suggestions.

And people signing letters to UNESCO to protect what? there's nothing on the top of the hill, apart of few stone blocks covered by high grass. Can you see ex-Bosnia capital on the hill? There's almost nothing left.

[Beagle]

I agree

[stellarchaser]

I agree

Thanks Beagle.