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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:19 pm
by Katherine Reece
Sorry about the quality... my scanner is dead so I had to take a picture with my digital camera... too much flash I'm afraid ... but the one with no flash was too dark.
Anyway ...these have been found at Giza.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:19 pm
by Minimalist
Size DOES matter, son.
Back in a bit....the wife wants me to go shopping with her.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:22 pm
by Frank Harrist
Katherine Reece wrote:Frank Harrist wrote:
They had been bulding with stone for centuries. Mastabas, temples, step pyramids etc. They knew WTF they were doing.
A pulley would have been nice, but not absolutely necessary.
Have you seen the "proto-pully"?
No. Do you have a link?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:23 pm
by Frank Harrist
Katherine Reece wrote:
Sorry about the quality... my scanner is dead so I had to take a picture with my digital camera... too much flash I'm afraid ... but the one with no flash was too dark.
Anyway ...these have been found at Giza.
I got the red X in a box thingy.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:24 pm
by Frank Harrist
No wait there it is! It showed up the second time. Thanks, Kat.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:25 pm
by Katherine Reece
Really? Oops.... I think I have hot linking forbidden at Ma'at ... my site already used tons of bandwidth ..
Try the direct url
http://www.hallofmaat.com/images/proto_pulley.jpg
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:28 pm
by Frank Harrist
How does that function as a pulley?
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:31 pm
by Katherine Reece
They think it was a "proto" pulley. The idea is that it would have been used to help guide ropes...
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:36 pm
by Katherine Reece
Here's the full image from the book with a possible method of using it
http://www.hallofmaat.com/images/proto_pulley2.jpg
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:40 pm
by Frank Harrist
OH! I see. It's more of a guide for the ropes. That would work with my method.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:42 pm
by Katherine Reece
Glad I could help .....
BBL .. have to run to the store ...
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:00 pm
by Frank Harrist
I have worked construction and you'd be surprised how quickly one can become very proficient at a repetitive task. I have no scanner so i can't illutrate my method. But you start on one side building up and back as you go up the first few stone will have to be manually wrestled into place then you can build the ramp and lower the stones down the back side and use their weight to pull stones up the ramp. The ramp gets higher as the stones are piled higher until your at maximum height and the pyramid is over half finished. Then you start to bring them up and lower them down to complete the other half. The proto pulley mounted on a kind of jib to place the blocks. Read the link about pullies and ramps that Kat posted earlier. I read that and an idea that had been in my head for years suddenly just crystalized and it was like a light coming on. It's so simple I don't know why somebody else hasn't come up with it before. It took the math formulas and shit to make it clear.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:54 pm
by Katherine Reece
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:16 pm
by Minimalist
The oldest Pharaonic plummet known dates only from the Middle KingŠ½dom. One can be sure that it existed much earlier.
Why? Because the author wishes it to be so?
This is an unsupported statement.
Just an example.
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:19 pm
by Katherine Reece
The person to ask about that would be John Wall or Archae Solenhofen at Ma'at ... they're much more versed in this that I am.
