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Re: Mencken

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:24 pm
by Minimalist
stan wrote:Mencken was one of the US's great men of letters.
In addition to newspaper columns he
wrote a three- volume study of American English, of which
I boast to have read the first.

And Ambrose Bierce is right up there with him.
Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
-- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary (1911)

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:41 am
by Minimalist
Hot off the Presses...but still Osmanagic talking....the Egyptians aren't due to arrive for another month.


http://apnews.excite.com/article/200604 ... GGLG1.html
VISOKO, Bosnia-Herzegovina (AP) - Researchers on Wednesday unearthed geometrically cut stone slabs that they said could form part of the sloping surface of what they believe is an ancient pyramid lying beneath a huge hill.

Archaeologists and other experts began digging at this central Bosnian town last week to explore the team leader's theory that the 2,120-foot hill covers a step pyramid, which would be the first ever found in Europe.

"These are the first uncovered walls of the pyramid," Semir Osmanagic, a Bosnian archaeologist who studied the pyramids of Latin America for 15 years, said of the stonework found Wednesday.

"We can see the surface is perfectly flat. This is the crucial material proof that we are talking pyramids," he said.

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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:10 am
by Guest
But at the very bottom of that page Wikipedia goes to great lengths to tell you that the article doesn't quote any references to back up any of its claims. And neither does the 'blog', which looks more like a student wind-up than anything serious.
If you follow the link to the 'Hellenic Pyramids' page, you get dodgy, out-of-focus photos with text in equally dodgy English...written in a similar style to our friend in here.... :wink:

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:35 am
by stan
Image

Here's the Hellenikon "pyramid" along with some commentary that says
it isn't as old as previously thought:
At the South-eastern edge of the plain of Argolid, near the springs of the Erasinos river (nowadays 'Kephalari') and on the main arterial road which in antiquity lead from Argos to Tegea and the rest of Arcadia and Kynouria, there is a small fort at present known as the 'pyramid' of Hellenikon.
According to evidence from the excavations and the typical features of the structure which dates to the end of the 4th century B.C. and not to the prehistoric period, as some scientists have been recently willing to demonstrate.
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21104a/e211da11.html

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:55 pm
by Minimalist
Looks more like a "watchtower" than a useful fort.

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:03 pm
by eratoh
whats this about.. lost his permits? etc?

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.archa ... 7d3d54bd28

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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:21 pm
by Guest
That petition is almost as big a piece of crap as the so-called 'pyramids'. Srebenica fell to the Serbs because the Dutch 'peacekeeping' troops who were supposed to be defending it were too scared to do their jobs-I remember watching the 'talks' between the Dutch and Serb commanders on TV, and being convinced the former was about to either faint or soil himself.
Ditto for the claims that Britain brought Mujihadin over from Afghanistan to kill Christians...I can't stop laughing long enough to answer.
At the bottom, it states that JFK was killed for opposing the 'first Bosnian Empire'. I'm sure Marshall Tito would have had something to say about that!
On a plus note, why has Osmanagich's licence been revoked? None of the links actually said why, but I'm glad they confirmed what I've been saying all along about it being an ego trip for someone.
I agree it looks more like a watch tower...finding all those blocks so quickly was a little too convenient.

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:47 pm
by Minimalist
I was talking about Stan's fort in Greece.

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:47 pm
by Guest
But at the very bottom of that page Wikipedia goes to great lengths to tell you that the article doesn't quote any references to back up any of its claims
i willagree with RK here. i tried to follow the different links to see some photo evidenceof the Greek pyramids and not one showed what it looked like. they only had pictures of all the other pyramids.

i see where the bosnian discovery made yahoo news yesterday and they are proclaiming the flat rocks are the walls but i think too little has been uncovered to draw any conclusions and cries of success are way to pre-mature.

in some of the photos posted in this topic the 'archaeologists' described rock formations as man made, yet in the hills (mtns) of British Columbia, i have walked many a trail that had the exact same style of rock, the exact same formations and they were not pyramids in disguise.

i think, unless poven wrong by future diggings, that the 'pyramid' is nothing more than a hill with fortifications, similar to what the vietnamese did during the vietnam war and what north korea has done in their country.

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:55 am
by Frank Harrist
"I think, unless poven wrong by future diggings, that the 'pyramid' is nothing more than a hill with fortifications, similar to what the vietnamese did during the vietnam war and what north korea has done in their country."

I have to agree with you there, Arch. The stones prove nothing and the tunnels are simply defensive. No telling when they were dug. Maybe WWII?

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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:55 am
by Guest
Here's more on the subject of stone towers, but from a uniquely British angle-
www.channel4.com/history/timeteam/snapshot_brochs.html

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:42 pm
by gunny
I love you guys-----finally get to talk to people half as smart as I am!

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:43 pm
by Frank Harrist
I love Time Team. We get it over here a few months after it airs there I think.

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:11 pm
by Beagle
Hmmm...I heard a long time ago that the word "borg" meant a bog as in a swampy area or large pond. This was in reference to Excalibur. Ex - (obviously from the Roman "from " or "out of), calab (woman), and borg. Ex-calab-borg, which I was told meant from the lady of the lake. I have been on the board of our local Scottish festival, where you can hear most anything.

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:05 pm
by Frank Harrist
I thought the borg were them guys on Star Trek The Next Generation. Part human part machine. "Resistance is futile"