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Arch has been web-surfing again among the Creationist waves!

Old news.


http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Fossil_Sorting
The order of the fossils constitutes serious evidence against the creationist models. The fact that they have no interest in dealing with these problems cuts to the heart of the entire debate. Scientists are fundamentally driven by curiosity. For real scientists, problems or gaps in theory are the most worked on areas for research. Scientists want to know. Is the theory wrong? Is there an unconsidered ramification of the theory that will clear up the problem? Is there an unknown factor happening at the same time as what the theory covers? You can guarantee that in any science, the flaws will be the most discussed, most experimented upon, most examined areas of all.

Creationism has forwarded the same failed hypothesis to account for fossil sorting for almost five decades. Nothing has been added to the canon of creationist claims about fossil sorting in that time. No significant new research is being done, no new hypotheses are being proposed, no new papers are being published. All they do is rehash the same failed claims as accounting for a small subset of examples that their claims actually work for. Where is the curiosity? Where is the drive to discover? Not in creationism. The drive to discover is suffocated by the insistence that they already know.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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Where is the curiosity? Where is the drive to discover? Not in creationism. The drive to discover is suffocated by the insistence that they already know
so this is saying then, that the whole reason the evolutionary theory exists is for something to do?
All they do is rehash the same failed claims as accounting for a small subset of examples that their claims actually work for.
once you find the truth, you explore it for details not work at changing it all the time. which is another failure of the evolutionary theory, it is changed by what is popular, what is pre-conceived or what is the latest discovery. there is no stability in its workings thus that transitory nature undermines any hope of credibility a scientist wants to achieve.

all this is done by hypothesis and conjecture with no hope of ever finding anything definitive that locks in the 'proof'.

there is nothing wrong with a little curiosity or exploration but there is when you decide to go against the Bible and promote a theory that isn't true.
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so this is saying then, that the whole reason the evolutionary theory exists is for something to do?

No. It's because your Holy Shit made no sense that reasonable men had to look for facts instead of faith.

once you find the truth, you explore it for details not work at changing it all the time.

The essense of intellectual atrophy, right there. So much easier to believe in fairy tales than exercise your intellect, isn't it?

but there is when you decide to go against the Bible
Just think how much better off the world would be if Nebuchadnezzar had applied the "Joshua solution" when he took Jerusalem instead of marching them off to Babylon?

My goodness the world would have been a much better place.
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Just think how much better off the world would be if Nebuchadnezzar had applied the "Joshua solution" when he took Jerusalem instead of marching them off to Babylon?
nebuchadnezzer did only what he could do as that is all God would allow.

evolutionists use a lot of imagination when talking about the evidence for their theory, when are you going to be honest and admit that fact?

science really has nothing to do with it as science is incapable of providing the definitive proof they need, when are you going to admit to that? i have proven that with an evolutionist book so when are you going to admit that, despite your searching, despite your curiosity, despite your desire for more concrete answers, your way doesn't provide that which you seek?

nothing wrong with searching, nothing wrong with knowing more but when you leave God, then you leave the answers behind as well.
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Nebuchadnezzar didn't believe in your bullshit god any more than I do.

He was not as wasteful a conqueror as your bloody tyrant of god, however. Why waste a good slave?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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evolutionists use a lot of imagination when talking about the evidence for their theory, when are you going to be honest and admit that fact?

When you admit that fairy tales are no substitute for scientific inquiry.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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nothing wrong with searching, nothing wrong with knowing more but when you leave God, then you leave the answers behind as well.
Simply asinine.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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nebuchadnezzer did only what he could do as that is all God would allow.
then you didn't realise that Isaiah is completely fictional.
there was no dragon
no lions den
no daniel
Nebuchadrezzar was eventually assasinated by his general Nabonidus.
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then you didn't realise that Isaiah is completely fictional.
there was no dragon
no lions den
no daniel
Nebuchadrezzar was eventually assasinated by his general Nabonidus
that is your opinion and you should prove such statements.
When you admit that fairy tales are no substitute for scientific inquiry.
your scientific inquiry creates more fairy tales than it can substantiate. most of which are carbon copiesof the biblical record with a slight change in the wording.---bigbang, mass extinctions,etc. to name a couple of such examples.
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your scientific inquiry creates more fairy tales than it can substantiate.
You are getting desperate, arch.

Give me a call when you find a talking snake!
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Give me a call when you find a talking snake!
surely you mean a talking serpent
:lol:
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I'd settle for anything except a talking parrot.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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well its debatable just what a serpent is but the babylonians and the akkadians and the sumerians describe serpents that could talk as well
i'm wondering where the Hebrews got the idea from
of course the older serpents were all 100ft long with big teeth and had a nasty habit of attacking the boat of the sun god
and they didn't live in trees
:lol:
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There you go again.

Disbelieving the bible because of facts!
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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my favourite fictional biblical character is Lillith
but she didn't make it into the christian version at all
that would prove god was fallible
just like the rest of us
:lol:
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