Beagle said: “The double row of teeth you mention seems like quite an aberation. I've never heard of it in an adult, but it's probably happened. I have seen an occassional child with it but that was because the "baby teeth" had not yet fallen out, scaring the hell out of parents.
You have some interesting links there. I have seen many stories like this but no good follow-up investigations.”
My first thoughts also were that this is surely an aberration of dentition, but the number of reports suggests more of a racial characteristic. Damned odd race indeed, but as you state no good follow-up investigation has been made re the mound skeletons - except for Deborah A. Bolnick’s haplogroup study in 2005 mentioned by Marduk, and his mtdna breakdown may closely relate to actual Indian legends of the people of the Northeast.
According to Indian Legend there were two different races of strange humans that pre-existed their culture. One was the Archaic people who had slender bodies with long narrow heads. The other group was the Adena people who had a massive bone structure with a short head. The Archaics were living in the Ohio River Valley prior to the Adenas. In what is assumed to be around 1000 BC, the Adenas moved into the area , coming up from the South, to claim dominion over the land. After a great war, the Archaics were destroyed by this more advanced and powerful race. From the Adenas the art of mound building was established.
David Cusic, a Tuscorora by birth, wrote in 1825 that among the legends of the ancient people there was a powerful tribe called Ronnongwetowanca. They were giants, and had a "considerable habitation." He states that when the Great Spirit made the people, some of them became giants. They made themselves feared by attacking when most unexpected. After having endured the outrages of these giants for a great long time, the people banded together to destroy them. With a final force of about 800 warriors, they successfully annihilated the abhorrent Ronnongwetowanca. There were no giants anywhere after this, it was said. This was supposed to have happened around 2,500 winters before Columbus arrived in America, i.e. circa 1,000 B.C.-the time that the Adena seem to have arrived in the Ohio Valley.
Interesting site:
North American Giants
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The mounds are attributed to the Adena Culture, and the giant skeletons were found at the bottom of the mounds, with more recent burials of average sized people buried in the upper levels. Apparently the Fort Hill Culture and the Hopewell Culture also used the mounds for burials.
Charlie: Yes, precisely what I’m talking about. I didn’t know about this site. Rather a non-pc content, but then I’m a non-pc kind of person. He could be Caucasian, but give him a Mohawk haircut and he could also be an Indian. It seems totally unacceptable that science cannot perform a bone analysis.
T. Apoleon Cheney notes (in Illustrations of the Ancient Monuments of Western New York) that a twelve-foot high elliptical mound above Cattaraugus County’s Conewango Valley held eight big skeletons. Most crumbled, but a thigh bone was found to be 28” long. Exquisite stone points, enamelwork, and jewelry (like that of Mexico or Peru) were also unearthed in the area. The mound looked like those of the Old World.
Cheney also mentions a skeleton seven-foot-five (with an unusually thick skull) from a Chautauqua County site near Cassadaga Creek. Inside a very old mound near Cassadaga Lake were some large skeletons that were examined by medical gentlemen.” One measured nearly nine feet. (In 1938 Charles Hunnington of Randolph was so inspired by Doc Cheney’s finds that he made two giant “wooden Indian” statues, probably still at the museum in Little Valley.)
The History of Cattaraugus County notes the town of Carrollton’s “Fort Limestone,” whose rough figure-eight enclosed five acres. In 1851 the removal of a stump turned up a mass of human bones. Some were enormous. Franklinville’s Marvin Older virtually gamboled about the site with them: a skull fit over his size seven-and-a-half head; a rib curved all the way around him, a shinbone went from his ankle to above his knee, and a jaw - with bodacious molars - went over his own. Its first owner had probably stood eight feet tall.
Turner’s History of the Holland Purchase reports an ancient three-acre earth fort in Orleans county (about one and a half miles west of Shelby Center) that covered seven-and eight-foot skeletons. Their skulls were well developed in front, broad between the ears, and flattened on top. Also, Turner notes that, upon digging a cellar on his town of Aurora farm, Charles P. Pierson found a giant of his own.
In 1925, several amateurs digging in an Indian mound at Walkerton, Indiana, uncovered the skeletons of eight very ancient humans measuring in height from eight to almost nine feet. All eight giants had been buried in “substantial copper armor.”
North American Giants
Interesting site on the jc virus:
JC Virus