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Re: romulus

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:58 pm
by Minimalist
stan wrote:Of course...Rome was named after Romulus!

My head is spinning. Must retire and sleep on all this.

Good to "chat" with everybody tonight. :D


If recollection serves (meaning I haven't gone to look it up yet) the Romans arose from among the Latin tribes which occupied the area to the south of the Etruscans. Sometime during the early kingship period of Roman history the Etruscans conquered the city and a succession of Etruscan kings ruled until Tarquinius Superbus (Tarquin the Proud) became such an unbearable prick that Marcus Junius Brutus led a revolt against him which resulted in the creation of the Roman Republic.

Re: romulus

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:38 am
by Rokcet Scientist
[quote="Minimalist"][quote="stan"]Of course...Rome was named after Romulus!

My head is spinning. Must retire and sleep on all this.

Good to "chat" with everybody tonight. :D[/quote]

If recollection serves (meaning I haven't gone to look it up yet) the Romans arose from among the Latin tribes which occupied the area to the south of the Etruscans. Sometime during the early kingship period of Roman history the Etruscans conquered the city and a succession of Etruscan kings ruled until Tarquinius Superbus (Tarquin the Proud) became such an unbearable prick that Marcus Junius Brutus led a revolt against him which resulted in the creation of the Roman Republic.[/quote]

Tarquinius Superbus was the last Etruscan king (self-appointed) and a terrible despot, almost 200 years after Romulus (self-appointed) was the first Roman king (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarquinius_Superbus).

rome

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:02 am
by stan
So...

Romulus and Remus were mythical characters representing the latin
tribes who "originally" :roll: lived on the site of Rome. Even though
the Etruscans conquered them, R&R were retained as symbols as of
the locale? Or maybe they were reinstated by MJ Brutus and company..
And did Rome have a previous name that we know of?

I think I need to do more research before I hazard anymore opinions or
guesses about this. This class has too much homework! I must get another hobby. But I am grateful for your attempts to educate me.

BTW, in Rome, Georgia, USA, there is a replica of the famous "R&R and the she-wolf" sculpture in front of the county courthouse.

Re: rome

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:11 am
by Rokcet Scientist
[quote="stan"]So...
Romulus and Remus were mythical characters representing the latin
tribes who "originally" :roll: lived on the site of Rome. Even though
the Etruscans conquered them, R&R were retained as symbols as of
the locale? Or maybe they were reinstated by MJ Brutus and company..
And did Rome have a previous name that we know of?[/quote]

As I understand it, Romulus and Remus were rebelling (south-)Etruscans, calling themselves Romans, but their kingdom was RE-conquered by the Etruscans for a period of almost 200 years until the despotic Tarquinius Superbus was replaced by the Roman Republic.

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:45 am
by Minimalist
BTW, in Rome, Georgia, USA, there is a replica of the famous "R&R and the she-wolf" sculpture in front of the county courthouse.


Is there a plaque of the Ten Commandments attached to it?

Re: rome

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:48 am
by Rokcet Scientist
[quote="stan"][...]BTW, in Rome, Georgia, USA, there is a replica of the famous "R&R and the she-wolf" sculpture in front of the county courthouse.[/quote]

See! I always knew they were barbarians in Georgia!

R and R

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:33 am
by stan
You guys should be on the stage...the next one leaves in
5 minutes!

not too late

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:42 am
by stan
You can still sign up for this:

http://legvi.tripod.com/castroromani/id2.html

Note she-wolf on courthouse steps.

...............

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:09 pm
by Minimalist
Image




A couple of those guys look like they might have some trouble with the 25 mile forced marches. Been eating too many biscuits and gravy.

picture of roman legion

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:45 pm
by stan
Yes, the Romans were here, too! Their descendents live in an isolated
area of the Southeastern US.

How did you select that picture from the page and upload it?
If you look under the hobbit thread, you can see that I figured out
how to post a picture, but I selected one that was not part of a
page of junk.

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:19 pm
by Minimalist
Right click on the picture....select "properties" copy the url address and paste it into your thread using the Img command.

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:46 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Hey! What's that Pakistani at the far right holding the shield doing in that picture? :?
Is this a test?

pakistani

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:49 pm
by stan
He must be a captive.

Re: pakistani

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:52 pm
by Minimalist
stan wrote:He must be a captive.


A slave.

(Fit right in in Georgia!)

she wolf

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:03 pm
by stan
Just a "tit"bit...you probably already know that the two cherubic
babes were added to that shewolf statue during the Renaissance.
I don't know who perpetrated that travesty.
The she-wolf is said by art historians to be "Etruscan."

The Etruscans are said to have built tombs like houses, rectangular, with
lots of decoration --paintings and relief sculpture.
Some of their tombs are round tumuli, but my art history books say they
contain rectangular chambers.

This new grave is said to be from only 1000 bc...surely someone was
living there before that....

Speaking of the term "renaissance," a lot happened in Italy from about
700 to 200 bc...(my dates are spongy) They went from the Archaic
style of sculpture and architecture to an adoption of the more advanced Greek ...classic and hellenestic
styles, and really developed them and spread them all over their empire.\
Not to mention literature and politics....