geology

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:46 pm

It's contagious.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:10 pm

"I've gotten all sorts of emails asking if this is the water that burst out in Noah's flood," said the leader of the research team, Michael Wysession of Washington University in St. Louis.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -asia.html

I thought you might have fun with this. I had trouble deciding which thread to list in on, either this one or the "oh christ" thread. I opted for this one since it really is about geology.

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:30 pm

"It isn't an ocean. [The water] is a very low percentage [of the rock], probably less than 0.1 percent."

How much you want to bet that the Fundies will never read that?

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:32 pm

well, I would lay odds its not the quote they will refer to (time and time again)

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:06 am

Sounds to me, R/W like you want to see a fight breakout. Flood mythology is very interesting but if you look back at old threads you will see most of them dealing with the flood are locked. That should tell you something.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:16 am

The Noahs' Flood thread began as a discussion of the book by Ryan and Pitman, which is a great topic. But it quickly devolved into religious argument.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:34 am

True enough.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:44 am

Forum Monk wrote:Sounds to me, R/W like you want to see a fight breakout. Flood mythology is very interesting but if you look back at old threads you will see most of them dealing with the flood are locked. That should tell you something.

last thing I want to do is start a fight, at least not one I can't win. And I think there is no winning in a religion vs science debate. anytime someone uses "faith" as an argument, that is a signal to me that any reasonable discussion is lost. (but that is just my opinion). Having said that, I just want to add, that to my knowledge there is NO evidence of a global flood, and the story of noah is just that a story, it has a moral and makes for a good teaching tool but it is not history (at least not global history, it may very well be based on a local event). I simply found the quote I posted to be amusing, and thought I would share it. So please, let's not fight.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:48 am

anytime someone uses "faith" as an argument, that is a signal to me that any reasonable discussion is lost.

It's kind of a shame that you never got to know Arch, R/W.

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:51 am

The evidence for a global flood may not have been discovered but the most interesting aspect of the flood is the world-wide commonality in flood mythology. You would have to be blind (not directed to anyone: rhetorically speaking) not to see it. This points to a common origin.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:51 am

Believe me I have met a few "Arches" in my life, (let's just say they never left unscathed)

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:55 am

I have often thought that there was an origin to the Noah story. I was very intrigued by the Ryan and Pitman theory, but they did not include the Caspian Sea. It is called a sea, even though it is landlocked, because it is salty.

And I have trouble accepting the orthodox reason for that.

ravenwing5910 · Post by **ravenwing5910** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:58 am

Forum Monk wrote:The evidence for a global flood may not have been discovered but the most interesting aspect of the flood is the world-wide commonality in flood mythology. You would have to be blind (not directed to anyone: rhetorically speaking) not to see it. This points to a common origin.

It seems to me that commonality doesn't really lend credence to the story. floods occur locally where ever there is water, so stories relating to the survival of a flood would not be uncommon in any culture. Just a a square door in ancient peru doesn't mean the same architect designed the square doors in ancient egypt. The square door is functional, just as the flood story is functional. So I guess Functionality would the the common origin?

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:01 pm

Forum Monk wrote:The evidence for a global flood may not have been discovered but the most interesting aspect of the flood is the world-wide commonality in flood mythology. You would have to be blind (not directed to anyone: rhetorically speaking) not to see it. This points to a common origin.

That's Hancock's point!

Forum Monk · Post by **Forum Monk** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:06 pm

ravenwing5910 wrote:It seems to me that commonality doesn't really lend credence to the story. floods occur locally where ever there is water, so stories relating to the survival of a flood would not be uncommon in any culture. Just a a square door in ancient peru doesn't mean the same architect designed the square doors in ancient egypt. The square door is functional, just as the flood story is functional. So I guess Functionality would the the common origin?

I disagree. Square doors are not primordial or cosmological. The flood myths are. They are directly related to the cosmologies and creation myths of virtually every culture on earth (except Egypt strangely enough).