Mayan Apocalypse - 2012

[dannan14]

i would love it if Hoagland were credible as he is one of my favorite 'Coast to Coast AM' guests, but alas the guy is simply a great storyteller.

[spacecase0]

not sure this is credible, but it is a newish thing and does not have many people paying attention to it.

Are you seriously not sure if Richard Hoagland is considered credible?

not with everything that he says, or maybe even most,
but he dose latch on to some good things on occasion.
and I was playing with multidimensional physics before he started talking about it, but there are not many websites that really tell you what is going on with it, and I don't like typing it all out.

so here it is,
the way I was modeling it is:
that all the particles (like electrons, neutrons, and protons) are made of magnetic vortexes in various shapes to make different particles. the magnetic fluid that makes up the vortexes that make up the things that we can see is all going at the speed of light, but there are other particles that are at other speeds of light and we can not see or touch them because of this, so the other dimensions show up as other speeds of light.

so I decided to test this by making a magnetic vortex that should have looked like hydrogen, or maybe a neutron, but I made it about 5 foot across, and that way I could get a good look at it.

soon after I started doing tests I lost my apartment and my free time, it took me 5 years to get the testing hardware back out of storage, but I still have not much time to run tests.
the results that i did see matched some of what hoagland was saying, and all of what websites like
http://www.americanantigravity.com/
had when they first started,
but I really don't think that they have any idea why the things that they are doing are working.

there are people doing almost the same thing from many directions,
some do pure math, some are building things and trying things,
most of it shows the similar results, but no one has really put it together yet.

[Forum Monk]

Well Space, I confess to know nothing about hyperdimensional physics and so I must do a little research before I comment. I do know plenty about astronomy, astronomical events and galactic alignments, however.

I only hope you did not lose your apartment because of a 5ft magnetic vortex apparatus in your living room. I'm pretty sure that's a violation of standard lease agreements.

[spacecase0]

actually it did not violate my lease at all, the others living there moved out and I could not afford the tripled rent, it was an OK move in life.

one thing of note is that from my tests is that there was a plane extending out from the equator of my device that changed the magnetic permeability of that plane.
so the passing in and out of the galactic plane may do something to us if the galaxy is anything like my device was.

after reading all the archeology that I have, I got ready for an apocalypse long ago, so I really am not that worried about things changing, not much I could do about it anyway.
I really don't expect anything to happen on 2012 anyway, I am more worried about the water and food supply that people are seeing now.

[War Arrow]

Well, the London olympics are in 2012 - a piece of information I never tire of having rammed down my throat over on this side of the puddle. Not sure how I feel about the whole thing. Hugely sceptical probably, and I see once again there is sadly to be no Foxy Boxing event.

[Digit]

The largest and most expensive fiasco by a government that seems to have specialised in large and expensive fiascos WA.
A great spectacle and I shall enjoy it immensly, if I'm still around, but a still vastly too expensive even by their normal standards.

[Minimalist]

The winter olympics has hockey....the summer olympics has.... what? Track and field?

Boring.

[rich]

Swimming? And who knows - maybe they'll include bikini modeling !

[Minimalist]

The Swedes will win!

[rich]

I wouldn't care who won. in my opinion they all would!

[Forum Monk]

Below, I have posted every link I could find from a scientific or university based website, which addresses and explains the subject of Hyperdimensional Physics.







I was wondering why I never heard of it before. Guess somehow I missed it.

[Forum Monk]

A quote from John Major Jenkins - the "expert" who's seminal work is so often quoted and mis-interpreted.

It is important to define what the Galactic Alignment is in precise astronomical terms. (See the Glossary below for terms.)

The Galactic Alignment is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator. This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes.

Precession is caused by the earth wobbling very slowly on its axis and shifts the position of the equinoxes and solstices one degree every 71.5 years. Because the sun is one-half of a degree wide, it will take the December solstice sun 36 years to precess through the Galactic equator (see diagram below).

The precise alignment of the solstice point (the precise center-point of the body of the sun as viewed from earth) with the Galactic equator was calculated to occur in 1998 (Jean Meeus, Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997).

Thus, the Galactic Alignment "zone" is 1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 - 2016. This is "era-2012."

This Galactic Alignment occurs only once every 26,000 years, and was what the ancient Maya were pointing to with the 2012 end-date of their Long Count calendar.

http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm

Two things about the observed phenomenon. First, this event which supposedly happens on Dec 21, 2012 is an apparent event, not a real event. In other words, it will appear to observers on earth, that the sun has crossed the galactic plane. But in reality, the sun and its solar system is nowhere near the galactic plane and will not physically pass through it for many millions of years. Please note that the sun appears to cross the galactic plane twice a year, every year. But according to Major, quoted above, the solstice alignment happens more or less every 18 years. In fact, the solstice crossing in 1988 was much more precise than the one we will observe in 2012.

Second, the sun has been crossing the galactic plane on the winter solstice for a long time. This is not a one time event that will occur on the 2012 solstice. For example, the crossing on Dec 21 1950 (or 1951 depending on the visualization software used) was nearly a perfect alignment and yet the world did not end, nor was there any great enlightenment. I have not bothered to link any pictures to illustrate the phenomenon but could if anyone doubts what I am saying.

The plane of the galaxy crosses the sky in a line from northwest to southeast roughly in a line from Cassiopia, east of Taurus and Orion, skimming past Canis Major as it goes southward and then rises northward from Crux through Scorpio and on through the heart of Cygnus. Throughout the course of one year the sun will sweep a complete circle crossing this line twice. So much for the galactic alignment hype.

[spacecase0]

Below, I have posted every link I could find from a scientific or university based website, which addresses and explains the subject of Hyperdimensional Physics.







I was wondering why I never heard of it before. Guess somehow I missed it.

what a great post, took me 3 seconds to figure out.

I have talked to a few respectable physicists that are researching it, and as far as I know there is no pear reviewed works at this point.
because of this there are no grants to figure it out, so work is going very slow, at least this is what they say.

they are trying to figure out the anomalies in what we see in nature VS what standard physics will say will happen.
string theory is getting people no where, and this is one of the not so popular ideas, but they seem bent on making string theory working.

examples of things that they are trying to figure out with it are thing like: the wind patterns at the poles on saturn, the anomalies speed of light readings if you use spinning mirrors to break the light beam for your test, and why the electrostatic laws do not predict what happen when you take a charged capacitor apart and start moving the plates around.

the only thing that I know for sure is that physics has some major things that they have missed, and there is some way to figure it out, it is just far from being figured out,
and most of the physicists are really close minded, but in the next 50 years this should all be solved.

and I like the information about the alignments of the stars, it is easy to follow how you tell it, no pictures needed at all.
I am not worried about 2012 at all anymore, but I did pick that date for all my websites to expire, previously it was 2001, as a ham radio operator, I like the sun spot cycles.

[War Arrow]

Aside from the continued elusive behaviour of a coherent theory of everything, I was not aware that there was any significant problem with string theory. Is it not true that string theory in fact solves a great many problems which might otherwise remain unaccounted for?

[spacecase0]

Is it not true that string theory in fact solves a great many problems which might otherwise remain unaccounted for?

your right, but it does not fix all the problems and predicts nothing new.
and if it does not get us anything useful, then what good is it ?
look at what quantum physics got us, so many useful things...
and string theory is getting us nothing.

people are starting to notice that lots of money is going into string theory and we are not getting anything useful out of it, and that usually means that you are walking down a dead end.