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Speciation
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:30 am
by Cognito
No one, and I mean zip nada no one has proved to me that Hominids developed along separate, species specific lines. I would argue that we are all subspecies.
Exactly.
H. sapiens erectus
H. sapiens neanderthalis
H. sapiens sapiens
The "sapiens" taxonomy gives each species the ability to think (OMG). After all, if
H erectus could make seafaring boats/rafts, then he was capable of thinking about the future. If the future, then the past. If those, then self-reflection at some point.
Subspecies intermixing explains much more of what we obseve than the alternative. The only argument to the contrary appears to be based on emotion and/or sexual revulsion. However, I must point out that even Aunt Nellie enjoyed herself!
... she spent the rest of her life with a permanent grin slapped across her face.
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:07 am
by Ishtar
I think sexual revulsion is primarily engineered by social conditioning.
After all, in the story Beauty and the Beast, one would expect the Beast to fall for the Beauty - but don't forget, the Beauty also fell for the Beast.
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Re: Speciation
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:19 pm
by john
Cognito wrote:No one, and I mean zip nada no one has proved to me that Hominids developed along separate, species specific lines. I would argue that we are all subspecies.
Exactly.
H. sapiens erectus
H. sapiens neanderthalis
H. sapiens sapiens
The "sapiens" taxonomy gives each species the ability to think (OMG). After all, if
H erectus could make seafaring boats/rafts, then he was capable of thinking about the future. If the future, then the past. If those, then self-reflection at some point.
Subspecies intermixing explains much more of what we obseve than the alternative. The only argument to the contrary appears to be based on emotion and/or sexual revulsion. However, I must point out that even Aunt Nellie enjoyed herself!
... she spent the rest of her life with a permanent grin slapped across her face.
Cognito -
Das Klub will presently burn you at the stake for that one,
And advertise it.
Been nice knowing you...............
hoka hey
john
Das Klub
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:47 pm
by Cognito
Das Klub will presently burn you at the stake for that one,
And advertise it.
John, they have already had plenty of opportunities to do so, but I am still here peeking out from behind the likes of Wolpoff and Trinkaus.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:57 pm
by Minimalist
After all, in the story Beauty and the Beast, one would expect the Beast to fall for the Beauty - but don't forget, the Beauty also fell for the Beast.
Depends on the size of the Beast's bank account in the modern world!
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:20 pm
by Ishtar
Minimalist wrote:After all, in the story Beauty and the Beast, one would expect the Beast to fall for the Beauty - but don't forget, the Beauty also fell for the Beast.
Depends on the size of the Beast's bank account in the modern world!
Hmmm. ... I think I disagree...I think that was the case before, but never in remembered history has a woman had the economic freedom that she does now. So she doesn't have to choose her partner by the size of his wallet and can go by more important criteria.
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Choices
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:53 am
by Cognito
So she doesn't have to choose her partner by the size of his wallet and can go by more important criteria.
Alright then, the size of his ...?

Re: Choices
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:58 am
by Ishtar
Cognito wrote:So she doesn't have to choose her partner by the size of his wallet and can go by more important criteria.
Alright then, the size of his ...?

Yes ... his feet, Cogs!

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:14 am
by Minimalist
I'm sure this guy has 'big feet.'
Probably designed a killer video game and drives a Ferrari.