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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:45 pm
by Minimalist
Didn't think that was possible.
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:01 pm
by Digit
Practise make perfect mate!
Roy.
Egyptian Pleistocene Art
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:17 am
by Cognito
Alright, for all you art lovers, here is an article on Egyptian Pleistocene Artwork dated to about 15,000 years ago:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... twork.html
From the article:
"In the meantime, the finding has raised a big question: How were people in Western Europe and southern Egypt producing almost identical artwork at the same time? While the caves at Lascaux are best known for their painted images of bulls and cows, that artwork is actually outnumbered by stone engravings. And the Lascaux engravings are virtually identical to those in Qurta, Huyge pointed out."
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:24 am
by Minimalist
Wow.
While the caves at Lascaux are best known for their painted images of bulls and cows, that artwork is actually outnumbered by stone engravings.
What about the obvious answer? Stone engravings have much better staying power than painted surfaces?
Any European paintings which were not protected from the elements would have long since been washed away. For all we know, the cavern painting may simply be all that survives?
Weathering
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:55 am
by Cognito
I agree Min. The Egyptian carvings were probably painted also, but the carvings are all that remains. The only interesting part of the article appears to be the fact that the artwork from two different areas is similar in design.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:04 pm
by Digit
artwork from two different areas is similar in design.
Well why not Cog? Unless you are into surrealism a Bull is a Bull is a Bull!
Roy.
Bull
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:36 pm
by Cognito
Unless you are into surrealism a Bull is a Bull is a Bull!
So ... this is just a load of Bull?

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:41 pm
by Ishtar
They were all very fond of bulls, though, Dig and Cogs.
So why bulls in particular, out of all the other animals to choose from?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:13 pm
by Digit
We know that later the Bull was sufficiently important to them Ish that they buried them with 'honours', so it's likely that their interest in them would pre-date their ritual burials i should think.
Bulls
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:36 pm
by Cognito
So why bulls in particular, out of all the other animals to choose from?
Because the bull (i.e. auroch) represents virility and regeneration. Why else would an otherwise sane youngster leap the horns of the bull, in a test of manhood, other than to acquire some nookie from the female audience afterwards?
"Quite a jump, eh? Let's see ... I'll pick you, you and you!"

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:38 pm
by Ishtar
I know it's much later but around 3000 BC, the Cow of Heaven and the Bull of Heaven were the main godheads in Egypt and all round Mespotamia. This was also the time period for the Vedic Nanda bull.
This led to the horned gods and goddesses of the serpent cult. The earliest of them had serpents entwined around their horns.
So what we could be looking at with these pictures is the seed ground for that eventual religion, possibly?
Re: Bulls
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:40 pm
by Ishtar
Cognito wrote:So why bulls in particular, out of all the other animals to choose from?
Because the bull (i.e. auroch) represents virility and regeneration. Why else would an otherwise sane youngster leap the horns of the bull, in a test of manhood, other than to acquire some nookie from the female audience afterwards?
"Quite a jump, eh? Let's see ... I'll pick you, you and you!"

I was going to say that - that the Bull of Heaven was a sign of potency - but I didn't want another attack from Min for talking too much about sex.
But the Egyptian Bull of Heaven (who, coincidentally was called Min) had an enormous you know what, and the Victorian Egyptologists were so offended by it, they would try to cut it off.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:42 pm
by Digit
We like to talk sex with you!
At our age what else is there?
Roy.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:47 pm
by Ishtar
Digit wrote:We like to talk sex with you!
At our age what else is there?
Roy.
To be honest, I maybe do joke a bit about this, but I've been thinking about it and have come to conclusion that it's a sort of coping mechanism for being the most frequent female poster on a board of mainly males.
I think I make these adult humor jokes to put you guys at your ease, so you feel you can be natural around me and not feel you have to be over-polite or delicate. I think, actually, I try too much to be like a man in that respect, for the same reason. But I don't want to hold up the flow of the discussion by people feeling they have to take care of what they say when I'm around.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:05 pm
by Digit
I think, actually, I try too much to be like a man in that respect,
Well I sure as hell don't see you as some sort of pseudo male Ish, and for myself, if I ever appear to over step your personal lines then I say now, speak out.
The last thing I would want is to offend, I value your input too much for that!
Roy.