Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:14 pm
Front of the cave/ back of the cave......interesting how the context of cave both metaphor and artifact keeps the dialogue surprisingly fresh.
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According to chaos theorists, our greatest successes arise not from a steady, plodding, inexorable, mechanical motion towards a desired goal — but from failure. So then a new, fresh and exciting paradigm can arise, like the phoenix from the ashes of the ancient Egyptian, Greek and Phoenician myths, the Mesopotamian sun disks or Garuda of the Indian Vedas.
http://www.fractalwisdom.com/FractalWisdom/index.html
Simple, linear systems that are causal and predictable are the exception in the universe, not the rule. Most of the universe works in jumps, in a non-linear fashion that cannot be exactly predicted. It is infinitely complex. Freedom and free will - the Strange Attractors - prevail over rules and determinacy.
Yet chaos is no enemy and destroyer of cosmos, for from out of chaos a higher order always appears, but this order comes spontaneously and unpredictably. It is "self-organized." The creation of the universe is an ongoing process, not just a one-time event at the beginning. All and everything - and everyone - is part of this creative process. Over time all systems - from molecules, to life, to galactic clusters - are continually creating new organizations and patterns from out of featurelessness and chaos.
The world is not a clock. It is a game, a game of chance and choice. In the game, random processes - chance and serendipity - allow room for free will, individuality and unpredictable creativity.
The universe is governed by laws, but the laws are of a different kind than previously thought. .. They are not written in stone, they are general. They leave infinite room for creativity within certain general parameters. A few fundamental principals exist to establish the parameters, but the Law governs much more loosely than previously thought. The Laws are subject to changes and modifications over time and depend upon the particular facts. ... Self organization is the rule, not the exception....
Woodrabbit -woodrabbit wrote:Front of the cave/ back of the cave......interesting how the context of cave both metaphor and artifact keeps the dialogue surprisingly fresh.
I thought gravity and other Newtonian forces held the earth in place.Here is an artist's impression, based on scientific observations, of how electromagnetic energy from the Sun interacts with and holds the Earth in place.
And if you've the appetite for it, here's a video describing the views of plasma physicists that electromagnetic energy is a more powerful force than gravity in 'space', another misnomer.Dec. 11, 2007: NASA's fleet of THEMIS spacecraft, launched less than 8 months ago, has made three important discoveries about spectacular eruptions of Northern Lights called "substorms" and the source of their power. The discoveries include giant magnetic ropes that connect Earth's upper atmosphere to the Sun and explosions in the outskirts of Earth's magnetic field.
"The satellites have found evidence for magnetic ropes connecting Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the Sun," says Dave Sibeck, project scientist for the mission at the Goddard Space Flight Center. "We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras."
A "magnetic rope" is a twisted bundle of magnetic fields organized much like the twisted hemp of a mariner's rope. Spacecraft have detected hints of these ropes before, but a single spacecraft is insufficient to map their 3D structure. THEMIS's five satellites were able to perform the feat.
"THEMIS encountered its first magnetic rope on May 20, 2007," says Sibeck. "It was very large, about as wide as Earth, and located approximately 40,000 miles above Earth's surface in a region called the magnetopause." The magnetopause is where the solar wind and Earth's magnetic field meet and push against one another like sumo wrestlers locked in combat. There, the rope formed and unraveled in just a few minutes, providing a brief but significant conduit for solar wind energy. Other ropes quickly followed: "They seem to occur all the time," says Sibeck.
THEMIS has also observed a number of relatively small explosions in Earth's magnetic bow shock. "The bow shock is like the bow wave in front of a boat," explains Sibeck. "It is where the solar wind first feels the effects of Earth's magnetic field." When a knot of magnetism within the solar wind hits the bow shock--"Bang!" he says. "We get an explosion."
The technical term for these explosions is "hot flow anomalies" or HFAs. HFAs boost the temperature of solar wind particles ten-fold (as high as 10 million degrees) and they can stop the solar wind dead its tracks. "This is no mean achievement considering the fact that the solar wind moves at supersonic speeds near a million miles per hour."
"Hot flow anomalies may not play a major role in energizing auroral substorms--they happen too infrequently, less than once a day," notes Jonathan Eastwood of the University of California, Berkeley, who is studying them. "Nevertheless they are of interest. This is a fundamental physical process that accelerates particles to high energies and we are delighted to be able to study it."
Powerful substorms, giant magnetic ropes, explosions that stop the solar wind in its tracks: "We have much more to learn about all these things," says Angelopoulos. "I can't wait to see what comes next."
Ishtar wrote:Aha ... Grumps!
I knew you were secretly reading this thread, despite your earlier protestations!![]()
Mr Newton's laws have let us down, my dear. They only work if we make believe that there's 96 per cent dark matter ... which we are not prepared to do.
Plasma physicists now believe that it is entirely possible that the predominant force in the universe is not gravity. A new theory is being proposed, that is being put together from the data coming back from the space. The new theories seem to tie in with those told in allegorical form in ancient mythologies.
You might find this of help:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007 ... themis.htm
And if you've the appetite for it, here's a video describing the views of plasma physicists that electromagnetic energy is a more powerful force than gravity in 'space', another misnomer.Dec. 11, 2007: NASA's fleet of THEMIS spacecraft, launched less than 8 months ago, has made three important discoveries about spectacular eruptions of Northern Lights called "substorms" and the source of their power. The discoveries include giant magnetic ropes that connect Earth's upper atmosphere to the Sun and explosions in the outskirts of Earth's magnetic field.
"The satellites have found evidence for magnetic ropes connecting Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the Sun," says Dave Sibeck, project scientist for the mission at the Goddard Space Flight Center. "We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras."
A "magnetic rope" is a twisted bundle of magnetic fields organized much like the twisted hemp of a mariner's rope. Spacecraft have detected hints of these ropes before, but a single spacecraft is insufficient to map their 3D structure. THEMIS's five satellites were able to perform the feat.
"THEMIS encountered its first magnetic rope on May 20, 2007," says Sibeck. "It was very large, about as wide as Earth, and located approximately 40,000 miles above Earth's surface in a region called the magnetopause." The magnetopause is where the solar wind and Earth's magnetic field meet and push against one another like sumo wrestlers locked in combat. There, the rope formed and unraveled in just a few minutes, providing a brief but significant conduit for solar wind energy. Other ropes quickly followed: "They seem to occur all the time," says Sibeck.
THEMIS has also observed a number of relatively small explosions in Earth's magnetic bow shock. "The bow shock is like the bow wave in front of a boat," explains Sibeck. "It is where the solar wind first feels the effects of Earth's magnetic field." When a knot of magnetism within the solar wind hits the bow shock--"Bang!" he says. "We get an explosion."
The technical term for these explosions is "hot flow anomalies" or HFAs. HFAs boost the temperature of solar wind particles ten-fold (as high as 10 million degrees) and they can stop the solar wind dead its tracks. "This is no mean achievement considering the fact that the solar wind moves at supersonic speeds near a million miles per hour."
"Hot flow anomalies may not play a major role in energizing auroral substorms--they happen too infrequently, less than once a day," notes Jonathan Eastwood of the University of California, Berkeley, who is studying them. "Nevertheless they are of interest. This is a fundamental physical process that accelerates particles to high energies and we are delighted to be able to study it."
Powerful substorms, giant magnetic ropes, explosions that stop the solar wind in its tracks: "We have much more to learn about all these things," says Angelopoulos. "I can't wait to see what comes next."
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1316220374
Grumpage wrote:I knew I should have kept the hell away.
Then Grumps, in the nicest possible way, why didn't you?Grumpage wrote:I knew I should have kept the hell away.
kbs224 -kbs2244 wrote:Is
"Mythology, Ritualisms, Traditions and Folklore"
crossing over into science?