Shaman in China

[john]

All -

Seems his stash was sorted for higher THC content -

No male plants allowed!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28034925/

Note that the article states also

That the weed in question came from

"A cultivated strain."

Interestinger and interestinger.........


hoka hey

john

[kbs2244]

John:
My best memory of I5 was when, despite my waving my arms around while being followed to try and show we were having a heated discussion, a CHP pulled the local guy I was with over for speeding.
Sitting on the right, I could tell he wasn’t going to write up my driver, just slow him down.
The quote was “You know, sir, no matter how many cars you pass, you are never going to get to the front of the line.”
I have lived according to that phrase in a lot of traffic.

So, this guy had a make up bag, a harp, no male seeds in his bag, and was probably not ethnically Chinese.
Do I start to see a pattern here on why the ChiCom government is letting the information out?

[john]

John:
My best memory of I5 was when, despite my waving my arms around while being followed to try and show we were having a heated discussion, a CHP pulled the local guy I was with over for speeding.
Sitting on the right, I could tell he wasn’t going to write up my driver, just slow him down.
The quote was “You know, sir, no matter how many cars you pass, you are never going to get to the front of the line.”
I have lived according to that phrase in a lot of traffic.

So, this guy had a make up bag, a harp, no male seeds in his bag, and was probably not ethnically Chinese.
Do I start to see a pattern here on why the ChiCom government is letting the information out?

kbs224 -

You forgot brightly colored, woven wool clothing.

Which means both spinning and dying - to say not being dead -

But enough plant/mineral knowledge to change the color

Of fiber once it was spun.

All this before any evidence of the same techne

Appeared among the "Chinese" Chinese.

So we have a minor mystery here.

My gut hunch tells me that there had to be trade, with profit

Involved, for a bunch of Westerners to be in Northern China at that time.

But, to date, I can find no published evidence of either

2800 year old Western goods showing up in China,

Or vice versa.

So I flat don't know.

On the other hand,

Maybe it was the first, fantastically popular showing of the

"Little House on the Gobi."


hoka hey

john

[john]

All -

More.

http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 1&FIRSTIND

hoka hey

john

[kbs2244]

So it was defiantly grown as a drug.
Most likely locally.
And with some sophistication in growing and processing.
Was its use restricted to the privliged few?
Was it only for local use, or was it a trade crop?
Maybe for sale to the travelers of the “road.”
Do we have a center for an ancient drug trade?

Is the present climate a good place to grow it?
And is the current culture a place where it is used that way?

[Cognito]

If people here think it's weird to find Tocharians in the Western China desert, consider the Uighurs in Northern China.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... /17/9/1396

With regard to ancient migrations and population dynamics, has anyone here thought about the meaning of these discoveries? Hint: think long distance travel and even boats.

[Barracuda]

Party On!

[john]

All -

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/slideshow ... stash.html

Simply incredible cognitive/cultural assemblage.

And now i know what that damn kongou harp looks like!

The other thing which astonished me is the picture of the wool

Cloth. It does not appear to be plainweave, but

A (simple) twill.

Which means that they understood how to create patterns in

The weave by manipulating warp and weft.

"Weaving Pattern for Twill:

Under 1, Over 2, Under 1, Over 2
Over 1, Under 1, Over 2, Under 1
Over 2, Under 1, Over 2, Under 1
Under 1, Over 2, Under 1, Over 2"

This refers to how many strands of the warp you

Go over or under when passing the weft through the warp.

And, of course, though not included in the funerary goods,

That is good looking yarn, indicating a fairly

Sophisticate spinning techne.


hoka hey

john

[Minimalist]

A photo essay on the Shaman's Stash.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/slideshow ... stash.html

[kbs2244]

Two questions:
How do we know he had blue eyes?
How do we know what language he spoke?

[dannan14]

And how do we know what the harp looked like? i can't tell from the photo or the diagram which item is the harp.

[Minimalist]

Can't tell from the pictures...that much is certain.