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Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:56 pm
by Digit
So does that mean that DNA has been recovered from HE?
No they haven't, which is why I made that comment.
It would finally settle a lot of arguments if it was ever found that's for sure.

Roy.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:18 pm
by Minimalist
No they haven't, which is why I made that comment.

One would think they'd be less definitive with such statements given that lack.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:22 pm
by Digit
And weaken their argument Min? Like Eliza Doolitle said, 'not bloody likely!'

Roy.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:43 pm
by Minimalist
:D

Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:25 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:
So does that mean that DNA has been recovered from HE?
No they haven't, which is why I made that comment.
It would finally settle a lot of arguments if it was ever found that's for sure.
As DNA of 65 mio year dinos has been recovered and analysed, the odds of HE's DNA being recovered and analysed are good, imo.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:18 pm
by Digit
Second part of the programme is broadcast tonight. My wife has given permission for me to view it! :lol:

Roy.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 4:00 pm
by Digit
Well I watched part two, when the scene moved to Asia and mainland China.
Apparently the Chinese schools teach that modern day Chinese are direct descendants from Erectus with no African HSS intervention.
A Chinese geneticist sampled the DNA of 12000 men and found that evry single one had a DNA marker that arose in Africa 80000 yrs ago, thus disproving the Erectus claim.
Or does it?
Does anyone know how the rise of a given DNA marker can be aged as I'm way out of my depth on that?
Also of course the existence of that marker in no way disproves an Erectus connection despite what was inferred in the programme.
In addition the Chinese site the type of stone tools found all over central Asia, they are Acheulean to my eyes and they suggest this is proof of the Erectus connection.
An Australian? disputed that, saying that flint was rare in Asia and that the early people used tools made from Bamboo, and demonstrated the idea with an arrow point made from Bamboo and butchered a fowl with a Bamboo knife.
But! The knife was undoubtedly inferior to a stone one. Also Flint is not by any means the only material that has been used, in addition I cannot make the connection between a shortage of material and crudeness in the finished article!

Roy.