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The description of Comet Encke in 1628 BCE in Exodus may upset your religious views and your biblical text analysis.
I'll say!Those people know how to hold a grudge, Dig.
Your comparison of the 12 Labors of Hercules with Exodus is simply not valid, as the proto-Dorians were not literate. Further their world view, including religion, was significantly different.Minimalist wrote:But the entire discussion going on is that "Exodus" is not a contemporary account. It was written at least 1,000 years later and more likely 1,200 years,The description of Comet Encke in 1628 BCE in Exodus may upset your religious views and your biblical text analysis.
I don't put too much stock in that kind of folklore. To accept that I may as well take the 12 Labors of Hercules as historical reality, too.
In parts of the Old Testament, what we have are documents that appear to have been composed from earlier written materials, accounts written by peoples who were literate far earlier.
Hi Roy -Digit wrote:On impacts, I pointed out earlier that life threatening impacts are much more frequent than Toba events.
Tunguska sized events are listed as one a century, now most people are familiar with the Dino event, Meteor Crater etc and currently some 150 plus craters have been logged.
But, Tunguska type events do not leave a crater, in fact, in a few more years any visible sign of Tunkuska will be gone.
So in the cosmic order of things Tunguska is very small fry, but such event in a crowded metropolitan area would be pretty nasty, and statistically some 700/750 such events have ocurred since Toba.
Makes me wonder.
Roy.
It's not a question of mythology.Minimalist wrote:BTW, here is a list of impacts, presumably by someone who agrees with you to some extent. I see nothing about a strike in 16-1700 BC.
http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/I5.htm
As far as false analogies go, all mythology is fair game for any other mythology.
What happened to the dinosaurs, and many other species of their time, was
that they were annihilated by the global effects of an impact by an asteroid
the size of a city.
ScienceDaily (Apr. 28, 2009) — The enduringly popular theory that the Chicxulub crater holds the clue to the demise of the dinosaurs, along with some 65 percent of all species 65 million years ago, is challenged in a paper to be published in the Journal of the Geological Society on April 27, 2009.
The question is whether any historical documents were used to compose parts of the OT.
Yes, I realize that Jews trace descent from Isaac and Muslims from Ishmael. The Muslim story of Ishmael and his mother, Hagar, differs a little from the one in the Jewish and Christian Bibles on some points. But, although they don’t trace their own direct descent from Isaac, they do recognize him as a “relative,” and Jacob as a prophet whose son, Joseph, was sent to Egypt by God.The Arab peoples (now predominately Muslim) do claim Abraham as there forefather.
But it is through Ishmael and Abrahams other sons from Keturah. (Genesis Chap. 25)
These people were busy as shepherds all through what is now Arabia, Syria, Iraq, and Iran while Isaac’s sons were in Egypt.
Eight sons altogether. One by Hagar, one by Rebekah, and six by Keturah.This is why the Jews that are careful to say they relate to Abraham via “Isaac and Jacob.”
They are very aware that Abraham has a lot of decedents other than via Isaac.
Or, to the animosity between Sarah and Hagar over their sons.It is all a family fight that goes back to the split between Isaac and Ishmael.
