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Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:34 am
by Sam Salmon
uniface wrote:What's wrong with acknowledging a valuable book as a valuable book within its own parameters and on its own terms ? .....
Nothing wrong with it at all but remember there's an older demographic here who love to parade their narrow wisdom and p!ss on the knowledge of others-that's one reason why this forum has stayed so small over the years.

Of course every Archaeo cyber discussion forum extant suffers from the same malaise-as does the whole profession.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:50 am
by uniface
If Professor Firestone had trotted out native american legends as a basis for his comet theory how far do you think he would have gotten?
It depends, Min.

Even among academics, boring is boring, and exciting is exciting.

That's "why" (if you will) stuff like Holy Blood, Holy Grail goes ballistic. Offer people a fresh and intriguing perspective on the big picture, and they respond.

Many roads lead to Rome.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:56 am
by Minimalist
It depends, Min.

He would have been ignored.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:08 pm
by uniface
You think ?

Doesn't that Hawkins or Hawkings fellow (whatever his name is) write popular books that sell well ?

The difference possibly being that they're interesting ?

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:14 pm
by Digit
boring is boring, and exciting is exciting.
Which wouldn't, of course, automatically make 'boring' wrong nor 'exciting' correct would it?

Roy.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:32 pm
by Minimalist
uniface wrote:You think ?

Doesn't that Hawkins or Hawkings fellow (whatever his name is) write popular books that sell well ?

The difference possibly being that they're interesting ?

Richard Dawkins? Writes books which attempt to explain complex biological principles to laymen. He does not try to say that evolution happens because the Hopi saw a bird shit on a rock.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:49 pm
by Digit
Shame though Min! :lol:

Roy.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:50 pm
by uniface
Stephen Hawking ?

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:03 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:I'll take an iridium layer, or ice core analysis, magnetic microspherules, or nanodiamonds over some ancient poetry any day.
uniface wrote:All of which they're still sorting out and arguing over.
And they're not 'sorting out and arguing over' legends, myths, tales, poetry, and rumors...? Those are 'set in stone' and true without a shadow of a doubt...? :lol: :lol: :lol:

You'll love the bible! :lol:

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:47 pm
by uniface
I'm according them the benefit of the doubt.

As I do with you, amigo . . . :mrgreen:

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:01 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
uniface wrote: I'm according them the benefit of the doubt.
Last time I did that we got a criminal war on Iraq.
And every American citizen today knows Bush c.s. lied through their teeth about those WMDs and used it as a pretext for a war that killed hundreds of thousands of young Americans and Iraqi citizens, and (will) cost the US taxpayer trillions (for centuries to come). The very definition of high treason! Yet the perpetraitors (pun intended) are not even indicted.

In the US war criminals go unpunished.

According the benefit of the doubt has proven very stupid.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:12 pm
by uniface
It is extended on a selective basis.

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:14 pm
by Minimalist
"Talking snakes" and "world covering floods" deserve the benefit of the doubt?

What doubt?

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:23 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
uniface wrote:It is extended on a selective basis.
Then it is very stupid 'on a selective basis'...

Flakey!

Re: A landmark Book

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:52 pm
by uniface
The narrower the perspective, the more categorical the pronouncement.