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Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:47 pm
by Minimalist
I don't think they are very deep.
And, for the record, that first one doesn't look all that "natural."
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:21 pm
by Digit
Having been in few caves I'm no expert but it certainly doesn't look natural Min.
Roy.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:49 pm
by Minimalist
Maybe a real estate agent had them clean the first one up a bit?
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:01 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:And, for the record, that first one doesn't look all that "natural."
Have you a) been there, and b) been trained/educated as a cave expert, or are you c) judging from this lousy, overexposed snapshot...? (How do you even know that is a snap of one of the caves near Qum'ran? Could be anywhere!)
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:15 am
by Digit
None of which disqualifies Min's comment. For what ever reason the image does not look 'natural!'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qumran_Caves
Roy.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:58 am
by kbs2244
The caves may have been of various “depths.”
The accounts of explorations talk about going back pretty far.
But they jars holding the scrolls must had been put at various locations within a given cave.
The first scroll was found by a shepard boy throwing stone into a cave well over his head when he heard an unusual “clunk” that made him think he had hit something hollow.
It was a small hole but the jar was close to the entrance.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:33 am
by Minimalist
Rokcet Scientist wrote:Minimalist wrote:And, for the record, that first one doesn't look all that "natural."
Have you a) been there, and b) been trained/educated as a cave expert, or are you c) judging from this lousy, overexposed snapshot...? (How do you even know that is a snap of one of the caves near Qum'ran? Could be anywhere!)
The search was for "Qumran caves interior" so it seems logical that good ole google did not bring up caves in Kentucky. Contrast the two photos. The second one looks "natural" the first looks like it has been cleaned up to say the least.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:36 am
by Minimalist
Anyway, the show airs tonight and I have R/S's file transfer program safely stored away.
This is a big step up from Pando so anyone who wants to see it just sing out and make sure I have an e-mail addy for you.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:02 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:the first looks like it has been cleaned up to say the least.
That's what people do with tourist attractions: they clean them up for (paying) visitors. The medieval castles of Europe were literal cesspools when they were inhabited by their original owners and their retinues. They have never been as clean as they are today.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:02 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:Anyway, the show airs tonight and I have R/S's file transfer program safely stored away.
This is a big step up from Pando so anyone who wants to see it just sing out and make sure I have an e-mail addy for you.
Attaboy!
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:09 pm
by Minimalist
I'd expect a few jars around if it were a tourist attraction. Ya gotta give the dolts something to see, you know.
But look at the walls between the two photos. Something ain't right.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:35 pm
by Digit
Well that post from Wiki says some of them are man made.
Roy.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:59 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Nature plays weird tricks. This doesn't look natural. Yet it is: never touched by man.
And probably never will be touched by man either.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:26 am
by Minimalist
Well, the recording came out marked "Copy Protected" which means it is a .VRO file. I've found an alleged converter on the web and am trying now to see if I can convert it into something usable. If not, I'm sure it will be repeated - interminably - in the upcoming weeks and I'll get it then.
Sometimes, this happens when I try to record a premiere event.
Rats.
Re: Dead Sea Scrolls
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:49 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:Well, the recording came out marked "Copy Protected" which means it is a .VRO file. I've found an alleged converter on the web and am trying now to see if I can convert it into something usable.
Apparently not...
If not, I'm sure it will be repeated - interminably - in the upcoming weeks and I'll get it then.
Sometimes, this happens when I try to record a premiere event.
Hooray for DRM (NOT)!