America!

[Minimalist]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years%27_War


British expenses in protecting the colonies from French/Indian attacks are cited as a cause of the taxation which parliament imposed to recover their costs.

[Digit]

I have no problem with you saying what you want to say Uni but I would suugest that as others beside me have queried in the past what on earth you're talking about a little less verbosity.
You know what you're on about but perhaps you should try and imagine what it's like for us reading it.
Two points. Firstly I never mentioned race at all, secondly if you don't consider racism as 'reprehensible' I see no reason for the suggestion to bother you, also I've never read that comic and your view of WW2 seems based on never never land. Like it or not it kicked off with Germany invading Poland.
I did read the link BTW so perhaps you would answer this, which is the dominant factor in the difeerences between say your self and the Chinese? Race or culture?
Secondly, why do you appear to assume that the 'Aryan' race, whatever that is, is superior to others? and if so, in what manner?

Roy.

[uniface]

I never mentioned race at all

Right you are. It was

The Germans weren't racists?

I get you guys confused sometimes.

which is the dominant factor in the differences between say your self and the Chinese? Race or culture?

On this end, that's about like asking if the damage from a car crash is due to the weight of the car or to its velocity on impact.

Culture is the visible expression of race : the outer is the realisation of the inner pattern.

Disaffected German Roman Catholic farmers leave Germany in the 1870s and move to the Ukraine, upset over Bismark's Kulturkampf. The next generation leaves the Ukraine to homestead in North Dakota (a US state). Compare the farmsteads. Adaptions to local conditions aside, for all practical purposes, they're identical. Tidy, showing a lot of hard work, &c.

Englishmen who leave for the colonies do not stop being, essentially, English. Jews have remained identifiably Jews no matter where they've gone. In point of fact, it was the New Englanders' insistence on their traditional English rights that, in large part, accounted for their resistance as the revolution loomed. Removed from the mother country, they'd missed adapting to the curtailment of these via subsequent developments, in a sort of 100 years plus time capsule.

German Shepherds mate with German Shepherds, have German Shepherd pups, and raise them to be German Shepherds. As do all creatures sufficiently distinct to be species -- whether they have eight legs, six legs, four legs or two.

Because people are capable of imagining "culture" as a freestanding concept independent of "race" does not mean that this will withstand scrutiny in the real world. Spiders spin species-identifiable webs and birds species-identifiable nests. People likewise.

your view of WW2 seems based on never never land. Like it or not it kicked off with Germany invading Poland.

Both World Wars were on the drawing board before the turn of the century ; Versailles was calculated to produce the second. The invasion of Poland was the pretext. Not the cause. To find that, you've got to follow the money trail.

[Digit]

On this end, that's about like asking if the damage from a car crash is due to the weight of the car or to its velocity on impact.

No it isn't. For example, a Han Chinese baby taken from its parents in China and raised by American WASP parents would be Chinese, but culturally?

Culture is the visible expression of race

No it isn't, for the reason asked above.

Jews have remained identifiably Jews no matter where they've gone.

No they haven't. You would not know me as Jewish if you met me with out me saying so. Also do you think that your countrymen are not immediately identifiable when abroad? Or Englishmen in India during the Raj? Did you identify Sammy Davis Jnr as Jewish before you were so informed? What does a Chinese Jew look like?
I do not have any 'Jewish' features, and in fact would pass as your mythological Arayan, blue eyes and fair hair included.

To find that, you've got to follow the money trail.

The Nazis claimed to have marched east to obtain living room, so why invade Poland, or Denmark? Quite why they thought that they were entitled to invade the USSR to reduce their population density would need some explaining as well.

Roy.

[Minimalist]

so why invade Poland,

Um...Danzig.

or Denmark?

Because it was there?

[Digit]

Of course! Silly me!

Roy.

[Minimalist]

Those Danes are sneaky.

[Digit]

Careful Min, we're getting back to boats again!

Roy.

[Minimalist]

As always.

[uniface]

Jews have remained identifiably Jews no matter where they've gone.

No they haven't. You would not know me as Jewish if you met me with out me saying so.

Your mentality identified you before you acknowledged it.

I recall (because it illuminated a principle) one noteworthy identification of a forgery in the Louvre : "This piece incorporates every feature of Sumerian art its maker was aware of, and every feature of nineteenth century French art he was unaware of."

Similarly here. Because something is off your screen doesn't mean that it doesn't register on someone else's, Dig. It's the same reason why Englishmen who spoke passable German weren't successful as spies during WW II. Their Englishness (invisible to them, but obvious to locals there) made them stick out like sore thumbs. Just as people don't ordinarily "hear" their own regional accents while others do.

The rest of your rant is willfully myopic. To be sure, birds/animals taken from their parents and raised by humans grow up to be confused, dysfunctional (in the natural world) adults. The outcomes of whimsical adoptions, similarly. Even the children of mixed unions who grow up with one parent (i dealt with them for years in the juvenile reform setting) have some real issues with their identity. But such a situation is un-natural -- even anti-natural, and its existence is no refutiation of the underlying natural laws that become only too apparent when they are violated.

The seeming plausibility of your position hinges on, actually, a standard (and I am not out to be personally obnoxious) gambit, advanced by Jewish intellectuals for Goyish consumption : that children are "blank slates" -- tablae rosae -- that become what they are only through being written-on by their environments. Having selectively bred the merchant prince's daughter to the rabbi's son from time out of mind (when not the rabbi's son to his first cousin), and institutionalised genetic selectivity/exclusivity by every means at its disposal, Judaism's belying its own interior values in this rings patently hollow. And while Judaism is anything but a monolith where individuality is concerned, bringing flagrant exceptions to this easily to mind, in the main, I've fairly stated the case.

If you're wanting a seeing eye dog, or a shepherd, or a retriever, you do not go to the animal shelter, pick one at random, and teach him his job -- a job he's likely got no aptitude for, and lacks the requisite temperment for into the bargain.

The caricature of this, that "Biology is Destiny" is patently fraudulent. I'll agree with you on that. Biology only opens and closes doors to possibilities. Exceptional athletic ability, musical aptitude, intellectual capacity and so on tend to run in families. In Germany, "Bach" was synonymous with "musician" for 200 years. And not by coincidence.

It's not that what I'm saying is obscure, Dig. That mentality and temperment tend to run along genetic lines is easily established by a two-week tour of Europe. It's no more moot than saying that you'll not have much success trying to magnetise silver.

Once you've reduced everything involved to an abstraction, you can manipulate your conclusions from them to your heart's content. But while this works well in the inorganic realm (mass, energy, inertia, specific gravity), in the natural realm it is dystopic. As evidenced by every "ism" that's come down the road and gotten control of people's lives. The problem isn't that they aren't beautiful systems. It's that the view of human nature they take as their point of departure is fraudulent : abstract. As opposed to organic.

[Digit]

Your mentality identified you before you acknowledged it.

So now there's a 'Jewish' mentality is there, goes with the brown eyes, curly hair, hooked nose and a chop job I guess.

Similarly here. Because something is off your screen doesn't mean that it doesn't register on someone else's, Dig. It's the same reason why Englishmen who spoke passable German weren't successful as spies during WW II. Their Englishness (invisible to them, but obvious to locals there) made them stick out like sore thumbs. Just as people don't ordinarily "hear" their own regional accents while others do.

So why have I never been identified as Jewish I wonder, and not all British spies were caught, unlike the Nazi ones in the UK, seems we might blend somewhat better.

The seeming plausibility of your position hinges on, actually, a standard (and I am not out to be personally obnoxious) gambit, advanced by Jewish intellectuals for Goyish consumption : that children are "blank slates" -- tablae rosae -- that become what they are only through being written-on by their environments. Having selectively bred the merchant prince's daughter to the rabbi's son from time out of mind (when not the rabbi's son to his first cousin), and institutionalised genetic selectivity/exclusivity by every means at its disposal, Judaism's belying its own interior values in this rings patently hollow. And while Judaism is anything but a monolith where individuality is concerned, bringing flagrant exceptions to this easily to mind, in the main, I've fairly stated the case.

So you don't recognise Japanese Americans as American then?

If you're wanting a seeing eye dog, or a shepherd, or a retriever, you do not go to the animal shelter, pick one at random, and teach him his job -- a job he's likely got no aptitude for, and lacks the requisite temperment for into the bargain.

We're not dogs, did you check on your wife's racial 'purity' before consenting to breed with her?

That mentality and temperment tend to run along genetic lines is easily established by a two-week tour of Europe.

So why have Hitler's family continued to deny him? Goring's brother was arrested for anti Nazi activities. Stalin's daughter fled. Bin Laden's brother and son have deserted him, and why just Europe? Bach had 20 children, not one of whom was notable for anything other than being a child of Bach.
Hitler's attempts at breeding a master race doesn't seem to have acheived much either does it?
Out of curiosity, why do you consider yourself 'superior' to me, and in what what manner.

Try to keep replies, if any, down to a few lines before we all go blind would you? Verbosity, as demonstrated by politicians, tends to be used by those with nothing useful to say.

Roy.

[Minimalist]

o now there's a 'Jewish' mentality is there, goes with the brown eyes, curly hair, hooked nose and a chop job I guess.

Don't forget the horns!

[Digit]

They don't show, why do you think Jews wear the yarmulke Min?

Roy.

[uniface]

You don't want a discussion. You want somebody to feed you straight lines to riff off. I knew this before but I kept figuring you were capable of better. My bad.

[Minimalist]

Bach had 20 children, not one of whom was notable for anything other than being a child of Bach.

Meet Johann Christian Bach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Christian_Bach

Meet Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Philipp_Emanuel_Bach

Meet Johann Christoph Friedrich Bach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Chr ... drich_Bach

Meet Wilhelm Friedemann Bach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Friedemann_Bach


Really, uni. Sometimes I think you just make shit up to hear yourself talk. If you are going to continue rattling on about the Great Jewish Conspiracy you don't deserve much more than scorn.