Knossos and Evans

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:55 pm

Yeah....Theseus - Perseus....still Greeks.

oldarchystudent · Post by **oldarchystudent** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:21 pm

Minimalist wrote:Yeah....Theseus - Perseus....still Greeks.

..."a lot of euss's" - Phil the satyr in Disney's "Hercules".

stan · Post by **stan** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:27 pm

The implication in what I remember is that the palace was so big and complex...unlike anythng anyone had seen before, that one could get lost in it....

So was the labyrinth a (mythical) manmade structure, or a sort of cavern, or what?

oldarchystudent · Post by **oldarchystudent** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:30 pm

stan wrote:The implication in what I remember is that the palace was so big and complex...unlike anythng anyone had seen before, that one could get lost in it....

So was the labyrinth a (mythical) manmade structure, or a sort of cavern, or what?

The labarynth was a Greek misrepresentation of the palace at Knossos based on the complex layout, complete with an evil king and a monster to demonize the Cretians.

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:33 pm

Yeah Stan, there are some catacombs, or a maze, or something there but I don't think it's actually in the palace. I could go find out though.

The Minotaur or "bull of Minos" is reputed to be put in it. They had bullfights or bullsports according to their art.

I need to look that up.

oldarchystudent · Post by **oldarchystudent** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:35 pm

This will give you some idea of the complexity of the palace.

http://www.ancient-greece.org/images/ma ... s-plan.swf

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:37 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minotaur

see Minotaur (disambiguation).

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In Greek mythology, the Minotaur (Greek: Μινόταυρος, Minótauros) was a creature that was part man and part bull. It dwelt in the Labyrinth, which was an elaborate maze constructed for King Minos of Crete and designed by the architect Daedalus to hold the Minotaur. The actual historical site of Knossos is usually identified as the site of the labyrinth. The Minotaur was eventually killed by Theseus.

Whoops - seems to be myth.

oldarchystudent · Post by **oldarchystudent** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:40 pm

Minotaur is a myth, but the bull jumping appears to be a real sport of the times.

This is pretty interesting too - panoramic views of the ruins.

http://www.explorecrete.com/Knossos/Kno ... lcourt.htm

stan · Post by **stan** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:50 pm

Thanks for all the replies. That floor plan is impressive!

Sure, its a myth! But its' a myth about real people and a real building. That's pretty interesting to me.

Is it unique? How does it compare to Troy...for example. Or to other myths which may be older.
(Please don't mention Atlantis.)

oldarchystudent · Post by **oldarchystudent** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:04 pm

There are 3 other major palaces on Crete: Mallia, Phaistos and Kato Zakro. All complex and sprawling. Knossos is the best known.

I'm not sure if you can compare these palaces with Troy, being a city.

Not touching Atlantis!

stan · Post by **stan** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:25 pm

The tower of Babel....was that a real building?
Some people have said that the Hanging Gardens of Babylon
were the inspiration for that myth.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:31 pm

Many ancient legends speak of the ziggaraut, or zicauli, or mountain, where the different languages began to be spoken.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:30 am

Many ancient legends speak of the ziggaraut, or zicauli, or mountain, where the different languages began to be spoken.

no they don't
not the way you spell it anyway

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:32 am

What did I misspell?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:37 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat

but in fact even Ziggurat is a misspelling
the sumerians called them ZI.KUR.AT
and you don't actually know what that means do ya Jim ?
wanna clue ?
its something to do with mountains and life in a past tense