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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:20 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:
and then the Club will simply denounce anything he finds as "pseudo-science."
At that point
we need to step in again of course. To disseminate the information and battle the new "Arch's".
It's a never ending process.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:50 pm
by Charlie Hatchett
I thought we were looking for wooden boats from 20,000 years ago?
We were, and you're right, it's gonna cost a bunch of money.

One of us needs to win the lotto, damn it.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:53 pm
by Charlie Hatchett
Since the end of the cold war we got a few hundred navy submarines, with high-tech sonar on board, with no real purpose... Here's a galant task! A great service to human culture.
This, in addition to tracking and mapping whales, and other sealife, for natural conservation purposes of course.
Good exercise, too!
Hmmmm...we could write up a proposal to disseminate to relevant congressmen. Hell, we've commercialized NASA to some extent, carrying paid for payloads.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:56 pm
by Forum Monk
Wouldn't be more cost effective to drag one of the sonar devices around that map the sea bottom to high precision? Those devices can be used locate areas meriting further study.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:20 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Charlie Hatchett wrote:Since the end of the cold war we got a few hundred navy submarines, with high-tech sonar on board, with no real purpose... Here's a galant task! A great service to human culture.
This, in addition to tracking and mapping whales, and other sealife, for natural conservation purposes of course.
Good exercise, too!
Hmmmm...we could write up a proposal to disseminate to relevant congressmen. Hell, we've commercialized NASA to some extent, carrying paid for payloads.
There ya go!
Get the wheels in motion.
Only nobody said nuthin' 'bout no payin'!
The submarines, sonars, and crews, are already bought and paid for. Budgeted for 40 years of service. Their mission is to keep super-proficient with the technology entrusted to them. I.o.w. exercise, exercise, exercise.
'We', the archaeologic community should merely need to provide 'm with target area maps and a good briefing, then later collect and process the data.
Of course you sugarcoat the whole thang with a big PR doodah! Navy submarines in National Geographic magazine and TV! Everybody's happy!
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:30 pm
by Charlie Hatchett
Of course you sugarcoat the whole thang with a big PR doodah! Navy submarines in National Geographic magazine and TV! Everybody's happy!
You know, you might just have something there, Rok.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:35 pm
by Forum Monk
Yea, think about, U.S. submarmarines patrolling along a coastline off, I don't know ...let's say syria. Just tell them you're looking for atlantis. I'm sure they'll understand.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:40 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Charlie Hatchett wrote:Of course you sugarcoat the whole thang with a big PR doodah! Navy submarines in National Geographic magazine and TV! Everybody's happy!
You know, you might just have something there, Rok.

I should hope so: I used to be a corporate communications strategist...

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:15 am
by Charlie Hatchett
Forum Monk wrote:Yea, think about, U.S. submarmarines patrolling along a coastline off, I don't know ...let's say syria. Just tell them you're looking for atlantis. I'm sure they'll understand.

Good point.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:54 am
by kbs2244
Didn’t the latest expedition off Houston use a Navy nuclear sub?
Some kind of “back-up” role?
"Practical training” for our crew, etc..etc…
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:04 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Forum Monk wrote:Yea, think about, U.S. submarmarines patrolling along a coastline off, I don't know ...let's say syria. Just tell them you're looking for atlantis. I'm sure they'll understand.
What's there to 'understand', Monk? Those Syrians or others would need to know that subs are there in the first place, wouldn't they? And if those subs are any good at what they do (= staying hidden at depth), Syrians and others would
never know! Just ask the Russkies about their frustrations in locating and tracking US subs, or vice versa. In 50 years that's proven to be nigh impossible.
And even if those subs
are discovered: they're doing their thing at 50 miles from the coastline,
minimum. Mare Liberum! (The sea is free). They're
far from territorial waters. No jurisdiction.
No, Monk, Syrian (or others') sensitivities are a moot point.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:04 am
by Minimalist
I don't think our submarines are equipped with THAT kind of sonar. Now, if the Atlanteans had submarines of their own, maybe we could detect those?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:15 am
by Digit
Most site that would be of interest to us should be in seas too shallow for large subs, talk to inshore fisherman.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:28 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
300 feet is excellent boomer water, Digit! 200 feet is comfortable cruising depth for those dudes.
Inshore fishermen trawl water that is 10 to 100 feet max. We don't need to look there. Too shallow. And too 'recently' flooded: in the holocene. And I'm looking for HSS in the pleistocene.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:45 pm
by Digit
Fair comment Roc!