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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:39 am
by Digit
You been reading Asterix again Monk? :lol:

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:23 pm
by Forum Monk
How or what is Asterix? The french comic book hero?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:47 pm
by Digit
Oh Lord Monk what a wasted childhood you must have had. :lol:
Asterix the Gaul and his friend Obelix stood against the might of Ceasar's Rome, with a little help from their friends of course.
For your delectation my friend, read on.

http://gb.asterix.com/

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:39 pm
by Minimalist
Asterix the Gaul and his friend Obelix stood against the might of Ceasar's Rome,

And got what was coming to them! A gladius in the belly.

Veni, Vidi, Veci.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:32 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Asterix the Gaul and his friend Obelix stood against the might of Ceasar's Rome,
Don't forget the underhanded fighting strategy of Ceasar's Romans... they conquered Britain during tea time! Very uncivilized! When all the Brits were in their pubs having tepid water with a dash of milk (tea hadn't been 'discovered' yet). 8)

Veni, Vidi, Veci.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veni%2C_vidi%2C_vici

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:12 am
by Minimalist
More reed boats crossing the Atlantic.


http://www.cruisingworld.com/article.js ... &catID=559

Most people give Christopher Columbus credit for discovering the New World, but one archaeologist is out to prove that people not only crossed the North Atlantic from Europe to North America, but also sailed back to Europe as early as 6000 B.C.

As part of his thesis project to get his doctorate from the University of Bonn, Dominique Görlitz will set sail in July from New Jersey on the reed boat, Abora III, and he hopes to make landfall first in Spain and then in North Africa. He estimates that the trip will take about two months.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:45 am
by Mayonaze
re: crossing the Atlantic in a reed boat

Doesn't this theory assumes the travelers had:

1) the knowledge required to design and stock a vessel for a journey of X duration under Y conditions, and;

2) a motivation to allocate the resources necessary and accept the inherent risks?

Unless life was much easier back then than I imagine, seems like they would have had other more immediate concerns ...

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:47 am
by Charlie Hatchett
Minimalist wrote:More reed boats crossing the Atlantic.


http://www.cruisingworld.com/article.js ... &catID=559

Most people give Christopher Columbus credit for discovering the New World, but one archaeologist is out to prove that people not only crossed the North Atlantic from Europe to North America, but also sailed back to Europe as early as 6000 B.C.

As part of his thesis project to get his doctorate from the University of Bonn, Dominique Görlitz will set sail in July from New Jersey on the reed boat, Abora III, and he hopes to make landfall first in Spain and then in North Africa. He estimates that the trip will take about two months.
Cool. 8)

I laughed at this part:
There are no heads on board, but Görlitz seems unconcerned about that minor inconvenience. "We have the biggest bathroom in the world right off the side of the boat," he said.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:55 am
by Digit
I made similar observations sometime back May, and the obvious deduction is that the people involved were indeed aware of the existance of land 'over there'.
The only alternative logical deduction otherwise is that they were suicidal!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:01 pm
by Minimalist
Both questions require a "Yes" answer, Mayo.

The third question is even bigger. HOw did they know there was someplace worth sailing on the other side of the ocean?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:05 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Sailing the Atlantic?
That guy is a wuss!

Real men row!
And not just across the Atlantic, but across the Pacific too!

http://www.zeemanoceanchallenge.com/ind ... anguage=EN

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:08 pm
by Digit
Again Min, I covered that some time ago with the Great Auk nesting in NA then wintering in Europe.
These people weren't fools!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:15 pm
by Charlie Hatchett
The third question is even bigger. HOw did they know there was someplace worth sailing on the other side of the ocean?
Following food along the ice pack and/ or in the open ocean, and eventually reaching the Americas is one way knowledge may have been first gained.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:11 pm
by Mayonaze
The calorie exchange implied by the Auk theory seems like a bust. All that effort to walk, design/build/operate a boat, and just stay warm to chase a semi-sedentary bird through an arctic environment when all they had to do was just head south? Assuming thet these people were rational, what could have been keeping them from going south? Competition?

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:18 pm
by Mayonaze
BTW, when I retire I'd like to stay in Alaska - my wife says I'm not rational. This proves that the suspected Auk-chasers also weren't married!