Europes Oldest Civilization Discovered

[Guest]

and as for the Tuatha being picts

They weren't, because the Tuatha were legendary and did not exist. And neither did the Picts that far back.

[marduk]

No, YOU don't get it. The only thing around here without a clue what it's talking about is YOU.
You resort to bluster and insults when you're caught out, because you KNOW you should have kept your mouth shut to start with.

hey sure whatever you say if it makes you feel comfortable
you sound like you need the support

fyi
you were the one that started with the insults remember
you started with them and then you carried them on when i refused to answer your questions unless you could ask them civiliy
now i have answered them you just can't accept that you were wrong because just for a little while there you thought you had won something
this is a clear case of Transference imo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference

and in my opinion
when posters react like you do to genuine interest in an area everyone loses
for shame

[Guest]

you started with them and then you carried them on when i refused to answer your questions unless you could ask them civiliy

You were asked civilly-flick back a couple of pages!

now i have answered them you just can't accept that you were wrong

Because a) you haven't answered anything and b)I'm certainly not wrong.

this is a clear case of Transference imo

No, it's a clear case of bullshitting by someone know knows he's on the ropes.

when posters react like you do to genuine interest in an area everyone loses
for shame

Ipse Dixit But at least people can see you for what you are.
I'll say it one more time; there were NO Picts in Britain before the Celts arrived. The Tuatha de Danaan were mythical and did not exist.
Now. Present scientific or archaeological evidence to prove me wrong.

[marduk]

The Tuatha de Danaan were mythical and did not exist.

i see
so you decide which evidence to choose
if the Tuatha Danaan were mythical why did the Celts later venerate them as Gods
why did the Gaels
the Dagda was the first Druid
were they mythical as well ?

laughing at your superior intellect and ability to disbeleiev what doesn't fit your personal belief

You were asked civilly-flick back a couple of pages!

at no time were you civil
theres that transference again eh

Now. Present scientific or archaeological evidence to prove me wrong.





wales 3000bce

newgrange 3500bce

scotland 3200bce

Because a) you haven't answered anything and b)I'm certainly not wrong.

sure whatever you say like i said if you need to feel comfortable in your tiny little world so here you go
I am entirely wrong in everything i said and so are the chroniclers at the time who supplied the evidence that you haven't read as are the races who supplied the chroniclers with the stories that they wrote down.
why should they be right just because they were there eh
what would they know
they're wrong just the same as the modern archaeologists who have discovered that burial chambers are all built to the same design across the british isles from the same period which was 2500 years before the first celt stepped ashore at dover.
ROFLMAO

[Guest]

so you decide which evidence to choose

You haven't posted any yet! So far, all you've done is try to summarise works by two Christian missionaries in the 7th or 8th centuries, and pass them off as "contemporary history of pre-Roman Britain"-which they patently weren't!

if the Tuatha Danaan were mythical why did the Celts later venerate them as Gods

I'm an archaeologist, not a theologist. If they weren't mythical, why can't you produce evidence that proves they existed?
The Celts also venerated water, and caves, since they held them to be the portals to their cthonic gods.

laughing at your superior intellect and ability to disbeleiev what doesn't fit your personal belief

And everyone's laughing at your attempts to bluster in an effort to hide the fact that you don't actually know what you're talking about.

at no time were you civil

You were asked civilly to present evidence a couple of pages back. At no point have I attempted to denigrate you, your employment, or your private life. You have done all three to me so far.

The Modern Antiquarian is a book written by failed pop star, drug user and neo-Nazi Julian Cope. Hardly an authority, is he?

I am entirely wrong in everything i said and so are the chroniclers at the time who supplied the evidence that you haven't read as are the races who supplied the chroniclers with the stories that they wrote down.

The chroniclers weren't there; Celtic society was illiterate. The races weren't there-the Tuatha de Danaan were mythical.

they're wrong just the same as the modern archaeologists who have discovered that burial chambers are all built to the same design across the british isles from the same period which was 2500 years before the first celt stepped ashore at dover.

A circle is a circle is a circle-tell me how many variations you think there can be! A circle is the quickest and easiest way to enclose the maximum space with the minimum of effort. Besides none of those links prove your previous assertion that all these monuments were built by the Picts before the Celts even arrived.

[marduk]

I'm an archaeologist

which site are you currently working on ?

The Modern Antiquarian is a book written by failed pop star, drug user and neo-Nazi Julian Cope. Hardly an authority, is he?

when did i use text from the modern antiquarian

Celtic society was illiterate

then why bring them up
they aren't relevant to this discussion as they weren't in england at the time we are discussing

circle is a circle is a circle-tell me how many variations you think there can be! A circle is the quickest and easiest way to enclose the maximum space with the minimum of effort

I'm thinking at this point that you should maybe look at the plans for a few stone circles. Or if you're referring to the passage tombs (the technical name) that i posted the plans of then perhaps you could tell me why they all have the same cross layout inside them. a cross isn't a circle is a circle is a circle is it ?
theres something you clearly have missed

[Frank Harrist]

laughing at your superior intellect

Captain James Tiberius Kirk to Khan in the movie "The Wrath of Khan". Pissed old Khan off too.

[marduk]

lol
so
quoting from movies isn't allowed now

how about

I'm as constant as the northern star

[Frank Harrist]

I never said they weren't allowed. I just identified that one. I don't know the new one though. Sorry for the distraction.

[Minimalist]

I think RK has pretty much won this battle.

[marduk]

why am i not surprised that you claimed that based on the complete lack of any evidence whatsoever that she presented
your bias is clearly showing Min
i thought you claimed it was just the club that closed ranks to hide the truth

[Minimalist]

I think both of you are in "The Club."

You'll probably be getting a letter ordering you to appear before the "Disciplinary Committee."

[marduk]

if i'm in the club at all I'm a heretic remember
i don't listen to the committee
ask Doug

[Guest]

when did i use text from the modern antiquarian

The picture you used of Bryn Celli Dde came from that book.

then why bring them up

Because you asked why none of my sources pre-dated the Romans, and I explained that was why.

they aren't relevant to this discussion as they weren't in england at the time we are discussing

And neither were the Picts-the people you insisted built them!
Before you start making hysterical claims about other people's "lack of evidence"-a blatant lie-when are you going to post some evidence to prove the Picts were in Britain BEFORE the Celts?!

[marduk]

The picture you used of Bryn Celli Dde came from that book.

so youre saying that picture and the way i presented it wasn't accurate ?
or you were just clutching at straws when you claimed it was the first time
which ?