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so Plato was wrong thenYeah - if, and that's a big if, there is a shred of truth behind the Atlantis story by Plato, it would have to be the Minoan civilization. IMO
What don't you understand about the term "fact based myth" ?its either 100% fact based or a complete fabrication
OK, I understand now.marduk wrote:facts aren't based on myth its the other way round
myths have a nasty habit of being based on fact
semantics
tcoh
please prove that. i have seen far too many documenteries and read far too many articles and books that line up some of the details, if not most.none of the details match Minoa
who originated the original story? and where did they get the idea from?According to Plato, he was only repeating an older story
who originated the original story? and where did they get the idea from?
Unfortunately, the story of Atlantis won't just go away since Solon dates the deluge at 9,600bce which happens to be the termination of the Younger Dryas. If he had chosen a different date, Beagle might get his wish. Of course, Athens wasn't there in 9,600bce.Supposedly, Solon of Athens learned the story from Egyptian priests. Of course, in Plato's story Athens defeated the Athenians a mere 8 millenia before Athens existed. There are thus a few holes in the story.
once again Beagle you are not crediting that I might possibly know more about this subject than you know is actually availableThere is no point in pursuing that with Marduk. If you notice, he states that the "myth" is not true because Minoa is not exactly correct.
as you can see hardly any of them match Minoa1. The Metropolis of Atlantis should have been located where an island used to be and where parts of it may still exist.
2. The Metropolis of Atlantis should have had a most distinct geomorphology composed of alternating concentric rings of land and water.
3. The Atlantis should have been located outside the Pillars of Hercules.
4. The Metropolis of Atlantis was greater than Libya and Anatolia and Middle East and Sinai (combined).
5. Atlantis must have sheltered a literate population with metallurgical and navigational skills.
6. The Metropolis of Atlantis should have been routinely reachable from Athens by sea.
7. At the time, Atlantis should have been at war with Athens.
8. The Metropolis of Athens must have suffered a devastating physical destruction of unprecedented proportions.
9. The Metropolis of Atlantis should have sunk entirely or partly below the water.
10. The Metropolis of Atlantis was destroyed 9000 Egyptian years before the 6th century B.C.
11. The port of Atlantis was 50 stadia (7,5 km) from the city.
12. Atlantis had a high population density, enough to support a large army (10,000 chariots, 1,200 ships, 1,200,000 hoplites)
13. The region of Atlantis involved the sacrifice of bulls.
14. The destruction of Atlantis was accompanied by an earthquake.
15. After the destruction of Atlantis, the passage of ships was blocked.
16. Elephants were present in Atlantis.
17. No physically or geologically impossible processes were involved in the destruction of Atlantis.
18. Hot and cold springs, with mineral deposits, were present in Atlantis.
19. Atlantis lay on a coastal plain 2000 X 3000 stadia surrounded by mountains falling into the sea.
20. Atlantis controlled other states of the period.
21. Winds in Atlantis came from the north (only in Northern hemisphere)
22. The rocks in Atlantis were of various colors: black, white, and red.
23. There were canals for irrigation in Atlantis.
24. Every 5th and 6th year, they sacrificed bulls.