Early Migration

[Beagle]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... glass.html

The origin of the glass had puzzled scientists since Kleindienst discovered it in 1987.

Some researchers had suggested the Stone Age glass may have been produced by burning vegetation or lightning strikes.

But a chemical analysis showed that the glass was created in temperatures so high that they could only have been the result of a meteorite impact.

Gordon Osinski, a geologist at the Canadian Space Agency in Saint-Hubert who conducted the analysis, found that the glass samples contain strands of molten quartz, a signature of meteorite impacts.

"We can now say for definite that they were caused by a meteorite impact," he said

From The Daily Grail: The time frame of 100kya to 200kya is too wide to know for sure if this event had anything to do with mans' early migration, but it's possible I guess. There would have been early humans in the area at this time however.

[Minimalist]

I guess 100-200k was too old for "Noah?"

[Beagle]

Probably - and I don't think this meteor strike was a water event.

[Digit]

I noticed in NEWS in SCIENCE an article about Aboriginal languages having their roots in the last Ice Age.
Some years ago a group of philologists attempted to re-create the first spoken language in Europe and suggested that WETTR was the root of Weather, Wetter, Water, etc.
Logic, I love that word, suggests, to me at least, that the vast differences in the spoken word across the globe lends support to the idea that HSS had more than one point of origin.
If, in Europe, we can follow a common language back to its roots and not find common ground with other languages, then logically those languages either developed in isolation because language was a late development, or the people that speak them developed in isolation.

[Beagle]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... ation.html

An old South African skull and an ancient settlement along the Don River in Russia lend crucial support to the idea that modern humans spread from Africa across Eurasia only 50,000 years ago.

African fossils show that modern humans had evolved by 195,000 years ago. Yet the only evidence of modern humans outside of Asia for the next 150,000 years is a couple of sites about 100,000 years old in Israel, which appear to have been abandoned as the Ice Age grew more seve

From the News Section.

[Minimalist]

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/co ... 2007/111/2


Another take on the story.

All living humans can trace their ancestry to Africans, who began settling the rest of the world sometime in the past 100,000 years. But precisely when the exodus took place has been a matter of sharp debate. Now, a study that provides a new date for an old skull offers fresh clues to when modern humans left Africa and where they went.

[Beagle]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0% ... %2C00.html

An ivory carving appearing to show the head of a human being marks Modern Man’s first attempt at figurative art, archaeologists believe.
The carving was found with primitive tools and two human teeth at a site dating back further than any other settlement found in Europe.

The Berekhat Ram figurine dates from 200,000 yrs. earlier. But that wasn't done by modern man.

[Beagle]

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stor ... 866959.htm

Ancient pig remains from the hobbit cave on Flores are helping researchers piece together how humans moved from Southeast Asia to the Pacific thousands of years ago.

Most scientists think humans spread east from Taiwan to the Pacific.

But an international team, including Professor Alan Cooper of Australia's University of Adelaide, says the pattern of humans moving out of Southeast Asia with their animals is more complex.

Interesting.
From the Daily Grail.

[Minimalist]

Humans have been domesticating pigs as a source of meat for so long that Cooper says tracking their movement is a good substitute for human migration routes.

One of the things that Finkelstein noted about the so-called early Israelites was that unlike their neighbors they never raised pigs. Good thing a lot of other cultures liked pork or Cooper would be out of business.

[Beagle]

Yeah, pigs were regarded as unclean by the Caananites. Still true today with the Arabs.

[Beagle]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/13/scien ... ref=slogin

Eric P. Hoberg, of the U.S.D.A.’s Agricultural Research Service in Beltsville, Md., concluded in 2001 that people contracted tapeworms millions of years ago in Africa, long before the emergence of agriculture and domestic animals. It was humans who infected pigs with tapeworms, not the other way around, Dr. Hoberg and colleagues reported. Indeed, people infected pigs not only with Taenia asiatica but also with a second species of tapeworm, Taenia solium, which humans seem to have acquired either by eating each other or by eating dogs.

If pigs had a religion, it is pretty easy to guess which species they would designate as unclean.

[Minimalist]

Actually, the Israelites (or at least the groups that coalesced into the Israelites) seem to have been fairly unique in that viewpoint. Probably something as simple as them having been nomadic sheep and goat herders who did not keep pigs themselves whereas the settled Canaanite farmers did, but the presence of pig bones is a distinguishing characteristic for non-Israelite towns.

[marduk]

actually they got it from the Akkadians who wouldnt allow pigs to be offered as a sacrifice in temples because they crapped all over the floor
the Hebrews just stole that tradition along with their god
their flood story
their garden of eden
their satan
etc
etc
etc

[Beagle]

Actually, the Israelites (or at least the groups that coalesced into the Israelites) seem to have been fairly unique in that viewpoint. Probably something as simple as them having been nomadic sheep and goat herders who did not keep pigs themselves whereas the settled Canaanite farmers did, but the presence of pig bones is a distinguishing characteristic for non-Israelite towns.

There was certainly a clash of cultures, alluded to in the Cain and Abel story that you pointed out yesterday.

We know that during an earlier climate change there was an exodus of African people from the Sahara that had to shift eastward - and they did raise pigs.

[marduk]

There was certainly a clash of cultures, alluded to in the Cain and Abel story that you pointed out yesterday

ah so now you are using the bible as a science textbook
funny how you flip flop on that depending on what particular point you are trying to make isnt it beags

heres the question
what did a jewsih scribe in 600bce mesopotamia know about the african climate 10,000 years earlier
I realise of course that you will either pretend that you didn't read this question or just ignore it completely
which makes my point to everyone else reading this thread about your credibility nicely doesnt it