The Walls of Jericho

[E.P. Grondine]

#1. We have a relative paucity of such inscriptions/baked tablets from Canaan, though. We get them in Aramaic but there is a lot of controversy about the derivation of others. Chris Rollston notes that there were other northwest semitic languages, such as Ugaritic, which are far more attested. In fact, as Ugarit and the Hittites, Cypriots, etc fell in the wake of the Sea People attacks the region seems to plunge into a dark age. Eric Cline's 1177 BC is quite instructive along these lines.

#1) Given that I am more interested in the "Minoans" than in the "historicity" of the Bible, I am more interested in the Sea Peoples attacks than I am in the "historicity of the Bible.

For that matter, I am more interested in the "Minoans" and "Sea Peoples" relations with the Hittites, Canaan, and Egypt than I am in the "historicity of the Bible".

Due to my stroke, my abilities to work with any writings is limited.

#2. I read it, remember.

As far as the Holocene Start Impact Event goes you seem to be the only one talking about it. You have far more significant people to convince than me.

As far as being the only person talking about the Holocene Start Impact Event, thank you.

I am the first, just as I was the first to write about cometary impact and the extinction of the mammoth and mastodon.

When you are the first, you are alone. It comes with the territory. Since you are unfamiliar with this, I can conclude that you have never been the first in any field.

In the future, you will see a lot of ignorant thieves ripping off my work.

You can't convince anyone of anything. They have to convince themselves.
All you can do is set our the data.

Remember that the data always wins in the end.
Its just a question of fatalities along the way.

#3

At what distance would you have to be from an impactor to survive and talk about it? At that distance how would you know what had happened? Won't you at least consider the possibility that when you read something your confirmation bias kicks in and everything becomes an impact event?

The mechanics of impact are very complex, and vary greatly depending on the size of the impactor and its composition.

An interesting and enlightening story - Israeli first responders used to arrive at the scene of suicide bombings, and find people with no apparent injuries, and who felt okay, but who soon died.

Their lungs had been ruptured. 1.8 atmospheres over-pressure is what it took.

This is one item that goes into estimating the fatal zone for impacts, and fatality rates.

Impact accounts usually come from a distance.
The impacts are highly visible.

A lot of the energy is converted into visible light.

Consider the recent very small one, Chelyabinsk.

[Minimalist]

Again, Cline's work deals with exactly those points but if you can't read it, you can't read it, and that's the end of that. I'm not aware of any sort of audio version of it.

I don't know how long you've been at it but you don't seem to be making much headway.
You know, the guys who insist that Bush caused the 9-11 attacks were "first" too. They are still crazy, though.

"Consider the recent very small one, Chelyabinsk."

Yeah, and there were all sorts of dash cam videos showing where it originated, too. They did not have that 12,000 years ago. Which again means that only the people in the immediate area might have seen it come down and if it was big enough to do major damage ( unlike Chelyabinsk ) they would not have lived long enough to tell the tale.

[E.P. Grondine]

Again, Cline's work deals with exactly those points but if you can't read it, you can't read it, and that's the end of that. I'm not aware of any sort of audio version of it.

I don't know how long you've been at it but you don't seem to be making much headway.
You know, the guys who insist that Bush caused the 9-11 attacks were "first" too. They are still crazy, though.

"Consider the recent very small one, Chelyabinsk."

Yeah, and there were all sorts of dash cam videos showing where it originated, too. They did not have that 12,000 years ago. Which again means that only the people in the immediate area might have seen it come down and if it was big enough to do major damage ( unlike Chelyabinsk ) they would not have lived long enough to tell the tale.

min, I long ago learned that it is pointless to discuss scaling laws, impact mechanics, entry mechanics, and orbital mechanics with many people.

Especially people in severe denial.

So I will just state that there is a zone of observation, where either or both the impactor and/or the impact may be seen, and people survive.

If you want to enter the field of impact research, there are now several universities that offer undergraduate level introductory courses.

I'm sure Cline is interesting to you, but I have a really full plate.

You are interested in the historicity of the Bible. I am not really all that interested in it, except where people working on that problem intrude into the bronze age Aegean, or make-up absolutely horseshit chronologies for nationalistic purposes.

As far as making headway goes, or the implication that I am crazy because other people do not understand ...

Like I told you before, it comes with the territory, and I'm used to it.

[Minimalist]

I'm not that interested in it, TYVM.

BTW, if you aren't interested in the historicity of the bible then you shouldn't be trying to use its fantasies to prove your points.

[E.P. Grondine]

I'm not that interested in it, TYVM.

BTW, if you aren't interested in the historicity of the bible then you shouldn't be trying to use its fantasies to prove your points.

What the hell does "TYVM" mean?

I have never used the Bible to try to prove any points. Period.
I am familiar with the parallels between the Bible and the tablets from Ugarit.

Two points.
First, the detailed allocation of land in Joshua is of interest.
Second, in the case of the Bible, at least you are dealing with one text, whereas
in the Greek myths, you have many variants.

[Minimalist]

Thank You Very Much.

Come on, E.P. You've got to stay up on this new age jargon!!!