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Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:11 am
by Minimalist
Oh, if you had a use for them I could see the utility of moving bones. As Take3 suggests, the bone itself is not THAT heavy but you'd have to butcher the meat off it.

Cavemen lived in caves....in areas in which caves existed. What sorts of shelters were used by peoples who did not live in regions which were dotted with caves? Some sort of yurt or teepee? But would the Club give them credit for such an ability when they steadfastly refuse to credit them with boats or bows and arrows?

What did they use for shelter?

Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:39 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:
What did they use for shelter?
Tents, teepees, or yurts. Whatever you'd like to call them. Made of hides and uprights.
As I said: in the Ukraine mesolithic man (predating Monte Verde by 10,000 years!) used mammoth tusks by the hundreds for those uprights (they built big houses/tents).

Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:07 pm
by Minimalist
So...unlike the Club, I'm guessing that you don't think they were too stupid to get out of the rain?

Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:25 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:So...unlike the Club, I'm guessing that you don't think they were too stupid to get out of the rain?
I wouldn't presume to know that. I just deal in facts, possibilities, and probabilities. And since mesolithic man everywhere else had already been building shelters for at least 10,000 years it is likely the Monte Verdeans did too.

OTOH, some people are indeed too stupid to get out of the rain, of course. Your 'Club' is a prime example.

Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:40 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
kbs2244 wrote:Would a higher sea level at the time have any effect on the vegetation growth and air density at the pass?
(I don’t know that it was higher at the time.
Just a thought.)
It was the height of the Würm ice age, kb. So sea levels were a lot lower than today. A couple hundred feet at least.

Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:53 pm
by Leona Conner
Rokcet Scientist wrote:
Minimalist wrote:So...unlike the Club, I'm guessing that you don't think they were too stupid to get out of the rain?
I wouldn't presume to know that. I just deal in facts, possibilities, and probabilities. And since mesolithic man everywhere else had already been building shelters for at least 10,000 years it is likely the Monte Verdeans did too.

OTOH, some people are indeed too stupid to get out of the rain, of course. Your 'Club' is a prime example.
". . . facts, possibilities, and probabilities." IMO that covers a hell of a lot of territory as to what you want to believe or not believe.

Re: Monte Verde Annex?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:29 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Leona Conner wrote:
". . . facts, possibilities, and probabilities." IMO that covers a hell of a lot of territory as to what you want to believe or not believe.
"Facts, possibilities, and probabilities" absolutely, but "believing" is categorically NOT in my dictionary, Leona. Either I know, or I don't.