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E.P. Grondine wrote:I'm fairly well convinced that there is an identified and unexcavated "Minoan" city located on the coast there - the port of Troy.

As the Iliad's Troy was separated from Minoan Crete/Thera by about 400 or 500 years, characterising a hypothetical port of Troy as a "Minoan" city is not applicable at all, imo.

Minimalist wrote:

Anyway, if that was Akrotiri, that must date back to the 16th century BC. And the seafaring skills and technology of the time seem very well developed already.

Does anyone doubt that, R/S? The Bronze Age trade network has been well established with Minoan artifacts found all around the Eastern Med.

No, that isn't doubted, afaik. Instead I think that the seafaring skills, technologies, and capabilities of the era – in particular those of the Phoenicians – are extremely underestimated and undervalued. I believe the Phoenicians – and their successors, the Carthaginians – achieved much, much more, and were correspondingly much more important for the development of civilisation, than they are given credit for.

When I was on Crete, I stayed at Amnisos. I saw holes dug sideways into ground where the waves had eaten away the shore bank, following the use of metal detectors.

We sometimes forget here that this is not a private conversation, and that all the world can see what we write here. I did, and I apologize. I should have used PM.

E.P. Grondine wrote:When I was on Crete, I stayed at Amnisos. I saw holes dug sideways into ground where the waves had eaten away the shore bank, following the use of metal detectors.

We sometimes forget here that this is not a private conversation, and that all the world can see what we write here. I did, and I apologize. I should have used PM.

And what is your point, E.P.?
Luckily metal detectors cannot detect the stone tools of the HEs and HSSs that colonized Crete and Thera.