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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:50 pm
by Minimalist
Or someone was.
The thing is that crucifixion was usually reserved for slaves and rebels. Plus, the body was normally left up as a warning to others.
Common criminals were usually slaughtered in the arena for the amusement of the spectators.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:47 pm
by Guest
the mentioning of the hankerchief is found in John 20:7 but it is the only passage to make such a distinction. which is fine as not every gospel needs to repeat the details of the other ones.
i am interested in the question of the authenticity of alleged relics from the crucifixion of jesus christ, and in the authenticity of the new testament account or accounts of the crucifixion of jesus christ
i think in this instance you will only get as close as 'its a possibility' and be satisfied with that.
yes normally criminals were left up but joseph of arimathea came and asked for the body and pilot granted the request thus Jesus was buried quicker than others.
and the chance he would pick blood of a rare type that would match blood on the sudarium would be extremely unlikely
good point except if that was the only blood type available for a forger.
again, i think that you will get only as close to what you want in which faith is strengthened not destroyed.
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:29 am
by Minimalist
yes normally criminals were left up but joseph of arimathea came and asked for the body and pilot granted the request thus Jesus was buried quicker than others.
A convenient plot device, no? According to Philo of Alexandria, Pontius Pilate was a miserable bastard with little or no regard for Jewish traditions.
It certainly seems unlikely that he would have violated Roman tradition by turning over the body of a crucified rebel. It simply was not their way.
Of course, it was also not the Roman way to crucify thieves but the gospel writers needed to get the trinity into the story.