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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:40 pm
by Guest
No, you obviously know more, ha ha.

Moses merely edited and redacted records from his ancestors (see article #13 at http://www.GenesisVeracity.com for details), and interestingly, and undoubtedly much to your chagrin, Marduk, he went out of his way to use 1400 B.C. place names for the more ancient place names in his ancestors' records, so the Hebrews of his time would recognize where he was talking about, see Genesis 14:2, 3, 7, 8, 15, and 17, read 'em and weep, comments?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:19 pm
by marduk
see exodus 1:11 septuagint (original translation into greek)
and explain to me how the Israelites built Heliopolis
then maybe you'd have a leg to stand on

he went out of his way to use 1400 B.C. place names

in the meantime
http://www.livescience.com/history/ap_0 ... habet.html
PITTSBURGH (AP) -- Two lines of an alphabet have been found inscribed in a stone in Israel, offering what some scholars say is the most solid evidence yet that the ancient Israelites were literate as early as the 10th century B.C.
Exodus (original version)
35,1 And Moses assembled all the congregation of the children of Israel, and said unto them: 'These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.
And the congregation did say "what is the first law of God" master
And moses did reply "something something something, Kill" i think

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:25 pm
by Beagle
http://indra.com/~dheyser/rockart.html

From the southwestern native Americans.

Fascinating!

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:54 pm
by Starflower
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... l?from=rss

Breaking news on the rock art front!
ONE of Australia's largest energy companies will fund a three-year postgraduate scholarship for research into a collection of Aboriginal rock art on Western Australia's Burrup Peninsula.
Seems the company even means to keep their finger out of the pie(dyke?)
"Woodside has guaranteed that the research will be as free and open as any other form of university research, and they do not want to influence the outcomes in any way."

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:01 pm
by Bruce
Starflower,

That's what I'm talking about! If we could use rock art as a dating tool it looks like the southwest, austraila, and now acient egypt were settled by the same people!

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:31 pm
by oldarchystudent
Bruce wrote:Starflower,

That's what I'm talking about! If we could use rock art as a dating tool it looks like the southwest, austraila, and now acient egypt were settled by the same people!
Depending on a few factors you can date rock art using element absorption technique. It depends on the art being exposed to wind-driven material which builds up as a varnish coating over the art. Trace element isotopes in the varnish can be dated but it is variable as wind is not a constant factor so it must be calibrated, and I'm not clear just how it is calibrated. I also understand that enough organic material may be present in the varnish to sometimes attempt 14C dating. These techniques are relatively new and the reliability is debated.

However I don't believe for a minute that Australia, the US and Egypt were colonized by the same people.

EDIT - apparently there are a few techniques....

http://www.uow.edu.au/science/eesc/staf ... k%20art%22
Luminescence dating of rock art and past environments using mud-wasp nests in northern Australia

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:39 pm
by Bruce
OAS,

Are they planning on doing samples from the southwest, and did they find any samples from the egyptian site?

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:46 pm
by oldarchystudent
I don't know specifically, but it would probably depend on the site director's confidence in the technique.

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:36 pm
by Beagle
http://www.jimhopper.com/paleo.html

And then there's cave art - France c18,000ya

Really impressive.

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:01 pm
by stan
Yep, those are classics. 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:35 am
by Bruce
http://www.petroglyphs.us/index.htm

Great site for southwestern - south american rock art.
But of course this art is all from 1000 bc to present whereas the same
art in australia dates to 40,000 bce
france 18,000 bce
Egypt ?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:44 am
by marduk
Theres no cuch thing as rock art dating from before 27,000bce
Andrew Collins proved that in his new book the cygnus mystery
and Andrew must know what hes talking about
he was recently hired by the A.R.E. on their Bimini project (as publicised by arch deviant Greg Little)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cygnus-Mystery- ... 1842931938
so
ner
Aliens must have done it
:lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:36 am
by Bruce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_paintings

does that book have a disclaimer refering to yetis, I love lucy reruns, and not having any thing to do with your first born child?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:01 am
by marduk
i hear that Hollywood are thinking of making a movie based on it
they're gonna call it "straight to video"
:lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:10 am
by Beagle
Yes Bruce, rock art can be dated just like any other artifact, although sometimes with varying degrees of certainty.