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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:52 am
by Frank Harrist
"mythologyis not fact nor is it scientific, so why don't you follow your own rules? "
Why don't you? The bible is mythology on the highest level. The bible is not fact, nor is it scientific. You can prove nothing without your precious bible to back you up. It proves nothing. It is not accepted as a factual book. You always try to discredit authors because they have an agenda. What about the authors of the bible? They surely had an agenda, but since it agrees with your agenda you accept it without question. Just as you say Finklestein and the others lie to disprove the bible, the authors of the bible are as guilty as they are. The byzantine empire compiled the bible. They were romans. As corrupt and hedonistic as the romans were, you think they saw the light and became saints overnight? No the whole foundation of christianity was built on lies and with political motivations. It's all smoke and mirrors. It's all deciept and corruption. You believe in a myth. The world is full of gullible people. What gets me is that even when given proof they ignore it, are blind to it, dismiss it. They'd rather believe in a fairy tale so they can think that when you die that's not the end. I got news. When you die it's over. Nothig else after that. No heaven, no hell. No angelic choir welcoming you to sit by jesus' side. It's just over. Spark goes out. Scares the hell outa people so they make up fairy tales so they can sleep at night. They even give themselves loopholes so they can "sin" and then ask some make believe entity for forgiveness and then everything's allright. You, arch, have offered no proof, no evidence, no facts and yet you say you have proved your point. You are so deluded. You are so blind. You are so childish in your belief in fairy tales. I bet you still believe in the tooth fairy too. I want to see a point by point rebuttal of everything I have said here, just like you always demand. Show me facts. Cite precedents, sources, evidence. You can't do it. Oh and one last thing. Billy Graham sucks!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:25 am
by Minimalist
Yeah, yeah...the Ice Age is not mentioned in the bible but it is mentioned in several other surviving myths.
Your problem is that you look at every other culture's mythology as if it were a myth but you look at your own as the literal word of god. You really need to do something about that ethnocentrism of your's.
Hey, Frank! Que pasa?
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:47 am
by Frank Harrist
I got tired of reading this drivel and I just had to put in my two cents worth. I got a freakin' earache, so I'm grouchy as hell. Grrrrrrrrrrr!
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:57 am
by Minimalist
Ah.
Well, arch will tell you that the bible says: He whosoever doth have an ear which doth ache shall cut off such ear and sacrifice it to the LORD.
Seems a bit extreme to me, but, it's an extreme document.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:20 am
by Frank Harrist
I think I'll trust to science and check with my doctor first. Pray for me, Arch. It'll give you something to do and make you feel pious or something.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:43 pm
by Leona Conner
[quote="Minimalist"]Yeah, yeah...the Ice Age is not mentioned in the bible but it is mentioned in several other surviving myths.
Your problem is that you look at every other culture's mythology as if it were a myth but you look at your own as the literal word of god. You really need to do something about that ethnocentrism of your's.
Hey, Frank! Que pasa?[/quote]
The reason they look at other cultures history as mythology is because they hold it up to the Bible and see how it stands. If it don't jive, it didn't happen, how simplistic can you get. The thing is, the Bible [i]can't [/i]hold up to history as we know it. They only used those parts that said what they wanted people to believe. All else was considered false teachings and thrown out. Now after nearly 1700 years, or more, people are beginning to read those books and wondering "What in the hell happened and Why are we believing it?" The truth shall win out in the end.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:11 pm
by Minimalist
True, Leona, which has led to such atrocities as this.
"As they contained nothing in which there were not to be seen superstition and lies of the devil, we burned them all, which [the natives] regretted to an amazing degree."
—Spanish Bishop Diego de Landa, on his systematic burning of thousands of Mayan books in the 16th century AD. Only three have survived.
If there were a god he would have long ago saved us from religious idiots.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:12 pm
by Leona Conner
[quote]If there were a god he would have long ago saved us from religious idiots.[/quote]
On this I thoroughly agree. Religion has destroyed more history than any other single entity. For this reason alone people should refuse to have anything to do with it. History is full of the atrocious acts done on behalf of religious zealots, not just Christians either. But then reverse brainwashing ain't easy.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:13 pm
by Guest
History is full of the atrocious acts done on behalf of religious zealots
why are you upset about things that were never done to you nor can be changed? besides your hypocrisy is showing. history is full of non-religious people who have done far worse than any religious zealot has done.
where shall i begin--attilla the hun, idi amin, pol pot, hitler, the romans before constantine, can't forget the picts, the celts, the western indians, the mayans, the aztecs and so on.
maybe if everyone followed your logic, they should give up non-religion because of the autrocities that those people commit. oh wait, thenthere are the scientists, who create such torture chambers like dr. mengele, oh oh oh wait their is lenin and stalin--how many people were killed under their and their successors' reigns in the u.s.s.r.?
yes, we have the self-righteous non-believers who are perfect trying to set the record straight against the poor little believers.
i certainly not proud of what has been done in the name of Christ but i recognize one thing--iI CAN"T do anyting about it except live my life like Christ's. i am certainlynot holding the aforementioned people over your heads as yo are not responsible foor their actions. NEITHER AM I responsible for the actions of those in the past. GROW UP and stop making excuses for yourselves and your poor theories, BE ADULT and say you don't believe because you can't believe it not because some man 1000 years ago slapped a woman.
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:50 pm
by Minimalist
Actually priests were sodomizing children far more recently than that.
Televangelists con poor people out of their money even today.
Jewish fanatics shoot missiles into station wagons full of women and children.
I can't imagine why you'd be proud to be associated with such slime balls.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:02 am
by Guest
Religion has destroyed more history than any other single entity
actually, the mericans have.... anyways, do not punish Christ for what He did not door authorize. when people act in Christs's name it doesn't always mean they are acting with Christ's authority.
there will always be punishment for sin and youmay not like the way God does it but it must be done if people are to learn.
to allow such activities to be your reason for not believing, then that is foolish because you are to choose to follow Christ, as He demonstrated in the new testament, and not people.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:46 am
by Frank Harrist
archaeologist wrote:Religion has destroyed more history than any other single entity
actually, the mericans have.... anyways, do not punish Christ for what He did not door authorize. when people act in Christs's name it doesn't always mean they are acting with Christ's authority.
there will always be punishment for sin and youmay not like the way God does it but it must be done if people are to learn.
to allow such activities to be your reason for not believing, then that is foolish because you are to choose to follow Christ, as He demonstrated in the new testament, and not people.
What history did Americans destroy?
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:35 pm
by Guest
What history did Americans destroy
it was posted as a joke but now that i think about it...
all those revisionists who destroy history, the thefts in iraq, 'real' archaeologists who deny scripture, those who believe the americans won the war of 1812, AFN and its 'historical' spots, all evolutionary 'scientists' and so on...
(said tongue in cheek-- for the humor impaired)
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:29 am
by Minimalist
'real' archaeologists who deny scripture
Heroes, in my book!
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:28 am
by Frank Harrist
Well Arch, I see you didn't bother to respond to my earlier post. No answers, no rebuttal, not even any acknowledgement. You think if you just ignore me I'll go away? I guess I win. (In case you missed it scroll to the top of page 22 of this thread.) You do just what you accuse others of doing. Skirt the issues, avoid the hard questions, see it all through rose colored glasses.