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You think it was open?

I don't know . Since they dropped those stone plugs down the shaft it's been closed, whenever that was.

I was hoping you had an answer for that unknown symbol. I was looking for a complete translation of the Inventory stele when I ran across this and I've spent the whole day trying to find an answer.

There isn't one. How many scholars over how many years have been studying the Narmer palette? They say this is an unknown symbol.

Let me tell you all what I have learned. At that time rectangles with symbols on the inside represented a place. The rectangle itself would tell you if it was a fortified city or an unfortified town, village , or site. In the url on the Narmer palette posted earlier, one of the pictures was of two figures lying dead on the ground or running, but both are looking back at a fortified city. That rectangle shows the stone fortifications patterned around it. The symbol behind Narmer that I'm talking about shows a plain rectangle. That is an unfortified site.

The symbol inside that rectangle tells the reader the name of the site or village. Egyptologists seem to know the symbols for all the cities of that time - but not this one.

Until someone can tell me what it is (and I didn't say a speech on what it isn't), it looks like a pyramid to me. Furthermore, it looks like the GP because of the depicted triangular entrance. So, if anyone runs across an answer, please let me know.

I'll pursue this another time on the Giza topic thread. I should have put this over there to begin with. I'm back to looking for the Inventory stele.

http://www.sangraal.com/library/starbirth.html

The so-called Inventory Stele of Khufu, found in the Isis Chapel near Khufu's mortuary temple at Giza in the 1850's, suggests that the "enclosure of Tehuti" is none other than the Great Pyramid complex itself. The stele clearly states that at least the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx were in existence at the time Khufu ascended to the throne. Peter Lemesurier, a pyramid scholar, has speculated that Khufu, which means simply (he) "protects us," assumed the name of the traditional builder of the pyramid, Knum Khufu, or "Knum protects us," to symbolize his possibly reincarnative connection with this semi-mythical builder. One of the earliest artifacts of Egyptian civilization, the Narmer palette, indicates that the pyramids predated the unification of Upper and Lower Egypt. A pyramid in a rectangular enclosure looms over the right shoulder of Narmer/Menes on the Lower Egypt side of the tablet like some relic from a forgotten age

Not a translation, but this talks about the meaning of the word Khufu, etc.

Beags,


After much digging I gave up looking for "translation of Inventory Stele" and checked Hancock's footnotes.

I'm sure the Club would have told us that he cited Sitchin or someone else that they have marginalized but in fact he cited James Henry Breasted's 1905 work on the records of ancient egypt. Looking for that, instead of the stele, I found this.

http://library.case.edu/ksl/ecoll/books ... eanc00.pdf

eLive the Horus: Mezer (Md[r]), King of Upper and Lower Egypt:
Khufu, who is given life. He found the house of Isis, Mistress of the
Pyramid! beside the house of the Sphinx of g[Harmakhis] on the northwest
of the house of Osiris,h Lord of Rosta (RJ -st' w). He built his
pyramid beside the temple of this goddess, and he built a pyramid for
the king's-daughteri Henutsen (Hnwt-sn) beside this temp1e.j

Once you load the .pdf file (and it is enormous, I hope you have broadband) scroll down to BREASTED's page #83 (by that, I mean ignore the .pdf page numbers and look at the text on the page).

Breasted almost at the start dismisses the stele but later on one gets the impression of a certain British/French pissing contest because it was Mariette who found it. Anyway. Breasted intersperses commentary in with the translation but I think he is a solid enough source for even the CLUB to admire.

Whew - that's almost 12 MB. it's a lot of pages. I've saved it and I'll read it later.

So what are these papers? Breasted talks about the Inventory stele then.

Tell me what all I'm looking at or what I should look at.

He translates various inscriptions and intertwines his own commentary on them.

All right, I'll start checking it out. And...if I'm by my computer, I always keep the browser open to my email. If there is a response to any of my posts I get a ding and a pop-up. I always make my way back. If not - I'm not by my laptop.

Thanks, this may be just what we were looking for.

I use this as an alert when an e-mail comes in.

http://www.montypythonpages.com/sounds/MESSAGE.WAV


If I ever enabled the 'post notification' idea I think my wife would kill me.

I like that. I just use the plain old one that came with the system.

This work by Breasted is pretty cool.

Hey, Beags. When you get a chance take a look at this.

http://www.grahamhancock.com/features/m ... ods-p1.htm


Graham Hancock talking about the Hall of Ma'at....and none too kindly!

Ah yes, I saw this a long time ago I believe. The Daily Grail had a link to this and it was the first time that I ever heard of maat.

I start my day by checking several news sources and Wall Street and then the Daily Grail. It has something for everybody. Then about a year and a half ago I began reading Archaeologica News every day.

I still have never posted on Hancock or maat.

Doug made a comment that Hancock now accepts the orthodox dating of the sphinx. I went over there looking for evidence of the statement. Never did find anything on it because I got distracted by that article. I suppose I need to go back.

There's a current thread on the Inventory Stela at Ma'at.
Found these there:

http://www.kennyzen.com/ae_inventory_stele.htm

http://tinyurl.com/oycqc

http://f18.parsimony.net/forum32435/messages/8668.htm

Doug

Uh.... this last one did not help much, Doug.

Da ich nicht wirklich glaube, daß Komödienhans selbst darauf kommt, widme ich seiner diesbezüglichen Behauptung, die er sicher ohne jegliche Text- und Denkmälerkenntnis mal eben so aus dem Ärmel schüttelte, folgende kurze Besprechung der sogenannten Isisstele aus dem zu einem Isistempel umfunktionierten Pyramidentempel der Henutsen, Gemahlin des ägyptischen Königs Cheops. Dazu habe ich einen von mir vor ca. 1 Jahr in dieses Forum geposteten Text recycelt, da die Fakten gleich geblieben sind. Genaueres zum Tempel kann man übrigens auch noch auf Franks Homepage nachlesen.

Minimalist wrote:Uh.... this last one did not help much, Doug.

Da ich nicht wirklich glaube, daß Komödienhans selbst darauf kommt, widme ich seiner diesbezüglichen Behauptung, die er sicher ohne jegliche Text- und Denkmälerkenntnis mal eben so aus dem Ärmel schüttelte, folgende kurze Besprechung der sogenannten Isisstele aus dem zu einem Isistempel umfunktionierten Pyramidentempel der Henutsen, Gemahlin des ägyptischen Königs Cheops. Dazu habe ich einen von mir vor ca. 1 Jahr in dieses Forum geposteten Text recycelt, da die Fakten gleich geblieben sind. Genaueres zum Tempel kann man übrigens auch noch auf Franks Homepage nachlesen.

It does if you read German though!

Doug

Ja. Ja.