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archaeologist wrote:

I keep on hoping for sense from this guy and I keep on being disappointed

frank isn't dumb you know. stop making me the issue and post something worthy of being here.

Sorry - I'll try to follow your example.....

Stratigraphy is useless.

Anything more precise than Stone, Bronze and Iron ages is useless.

The Bible is historical fact.

Yeah - great stuff.......

Ask him to explain away the contradictions between Luke and Matthew in the nativity story.

That's always good for a laugh or two.

Or how many animals were herded onto the ark (2 X 2? 5? 7? - it changes over the course of a few chapters....)

The stories are all rip offs from earlier Mesopotamian myths that the exiled Jews heard while being held captive in Babylon. Noah = Utnapishtim etc. Hardly the source material for serious archaeological research.

Minimalist wrote:Where you going to be until October 5, Beags?

Whoops - just saw this Min. I'm catching up on my reading.

I'm not going anywhere. Arch said he was going to be gone in two weeks.
So I marked it on my calender, and on that day I'm going to post his quote. Of course, he won't be gone.

He says this stuff all the time.

Oh, okay. I'll actually be in Charleston, SC but I'll bring the laptop to check in.

I can only take my in-laws in short doses.

I can only take my in-laws in short doses.

I certainly hear that. Pretty town though. I know from experience that "checking in" is not always easy. Enjoy.

Buenos Tardes.

So I marked it on my calender, and on that day I'm going to post his quote. Of course, he won't be gone.

beagle--when are you going to understand whati write? i said i would make a decision in 2 weeks and then go quietly, it may take a few days after i make a decision but it will happen.

SO - how about that evolution????

[quote="oldarchystudent"]Or how many animals were herded onto the ark (2 X 2? 5? 7? - it changes over the course of a few chapters....)

The stories are all rip offs from earlier Mesopotamian myths that the exiled Jews heard while being held captive in Babylon. Noah = Utnapishtim etc. Hardly the source material for serious archaeological research.[/quote]

Actually, OAS if you read the mythologies of Egyptians, Greeks, and the Mesopotamian civilizations, you will find that hardly anything, if anything, in either the Judaic or Christian is original to them. All OT stories have a paralel in a some other myth and Christianity is a convolution of pagan beliefs and what Christ actually did. The early fathers had to make it acceptable to the masses.

Including the story of creation, which almost ties in with this thread. The Genesis story is a retelling of the story of Marduk. Now who on this board would know something about that????

Marduk?

archaeologist wrote:

So I marked it on my calender, and on that day I'm going to post his quote. Of course, he won't be gone.

beagle--when are you going to understand whati write? i said i would make a decision in 2 weeks and then go quietly, it may take a few days after i make a decision but it will happen.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Leona,
Thanks for the welcome. Yes, I'm sure things will be stirred up with the find of the little one. I had originally asked where this little one fits into the big picture. As I wrote in my first post I have a great interest in archaeology just don't have a lot of expertise. I am curious about anything from the past.
Donna

Hi Donna and welcome. I haven't had the chance to say hello.

Hope you like it here.

It's always good to get the women here.....they are a civilizing influence.

The stories are all rip offs from earlier Mesopotamian myths that the exiled Jews heard while being held captive in Babylon. Noah = Utnapishtim etc. Hardly the source material for serious archaeological research.[/

i see you have provided no links to back up this contention. that is an assumption of the highest order. it is only based on the theory that nothing was writtendown or spoken of prior to the writings of other cultures.

again this is a fatal error to make and is only given life as it seems toundermine the Bible which leads me to the next point:

it seems that you are willing to give ancient man intelligence and capabilities equal to , if not surpassed, modern man in any area except science and the topic of evolution. there you still cling to some weird sort of superiority over ancient man as if Darwin and his followers are the only ones capable of determing the past history of the universe.

considering the acheivements of those who lived in the far past, it is not hard to extend to them the ability to be 'scientific' as thatfeild of research would have existed and there would have been people interested and smart enough to pursue it.

their observations would have led them to consider many theories of earth's origins and guess what, if we find fossils and skeletons today, that are declared old, it is a sure bet that the ancients would have done the same if evolution was true.

since we have no records of such thinking and we only have records of creation then we know that evolution is not true and creation is the only valid solution to the origin of the world.

Then by your thinking, which is---the gilgamesh record is older so it must be the original and creation not true-- we have the story of creation far older than the theory of evolution thus evolution cannot be true because it is too young and creation must be the original account because it was documented first.

you can't have it both ways. thus evolution is false and creation is true.